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Posted by martythemaniak 5 hours ago

Gas Town: From Clown Show to v1.0(steve-yegge.medium.com)
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cdrnsf 3 hours ago|
An apt name for something doing it's part to spike energy consumption and accelerate the climate crisis.
Quarrelsome 2 hours ago|
The climate crisis is primarily a consequence of fossil fuels, not necessarily energy demand. I feel like its a poor conflation, despite it possibly being a truism depending on where the datacentre is based and what power source feeds it.
cdrnsf 2 hours ago||
If we're keeping gas and coal plants online to power this or using gas generators to power data centers, I'd consider that a wasteful contributing factor.
Quarrelsome 2 hours ago||
but we could also argue that not investing in extra non-fossil fuel capacity is the issue here. OR not investing in more research on super conductors and/or storage. Iceland could possibly export considerable amounts of renewable energy if we licked those problems.

I mean, under the same logic couldn't we kinda argue that TV has ruined the planet? A lot of energy for something of debatable physical value. OR Motor racing, football, The Olympic games? All that energy and waste just to find out who can throw a stick the furthest every four years.

cdrnsf 1 hour ago||
I suppose one could, but none of those are primary economic drivers with dim prospects for turning a profit (well, I suppose that may be true of TV).
solomatov 4 hours ago||
Does anyone has any tips for starting with Gastown? I am comfortable with couple of agents running, but not yet comfortable with what Gastown offers.
peddling-brink 3 hours ago||
Set a budget. Fund an openrouter account with the max you can stomach spending on this test and give it a shot.

At least, that’s what I would do, if I had any interest in testing out gastown with my own money. If my employer wants to pay for the testing, that’s another question entirely.

solomatov 3 hours ago||
I mean not how to do it, it's not that hard, but how to be productive with it.
munificent 2 hours ago||
> I’ve been saying since last year that by the end of 2026, people will be mostly programming by talking to a face. There’s absolutely NO reason to type with the Mayor. You should be able to chat with them like a person. You’ll have a cartoon fox there onscreen, in costume, building and managing your production software, and showing you pretty status updates whenever you ask for one. This is the end state for IDEs.

This is a desirable end state for highly social but perhaps slightly sociopathic extroverts who want to spend all day talking even though they aren't talking to a person.

For anyone else, it's hard to imagine considering that a desirable way to spend eight hours a day.

selimthegrim 59 minutes ago||
This sounds like PaulHoule wrote it.
chao- 34 minutes ago|||
>This is a desirable end state for [a category of people] who want to spend all day talking even though they aren't talking to a person.

When I am not in actual meetings, I do already spend all day talking to anthropomorphized facets of my personality that represent software architecture, security paranoia, operational practicality, user experience, etc. Often not by speaking aloud, but it's a conversation nonetheless.

So yes, this sounds absolutely grand.

EDIT: But I don't think it should be forced on everyone! Having the option to use the tools that work best for you should be the goal.

kami23 1 hour ago||
Eh there's also introverts like me that find typing too slow and having a conversation with a computer is my ideal interaction :)
throw1234567891 3 hours ago||
Does this support OpenAI-compatible APIs? Or is it only clowncode, codex and copilot? Love to try it but without OpenAI-compatible APIs it is junk.
avaer 4 hours ago||
TBH this post still reads like a clown show.
moomin 2 hours ago||
Read some of his earlier stuff. He’s a very informal writer, but he’s a damn good one with good ideas.
troupo 2 hours ago||
No. He used to be good with ideas. Now he's drinking too much of his own poison. His blog posts are bloviated monstrosities incapable of coherently describing the very trivial ideas contained in them.
enraged_camel 1 hour ago||
I don't know, I understood it just fine? Might be a personal problem on your part.
righthand 4 hours ago||
Yeah but the clown show is now marked 1.0 for release.
jasonmp85 2 hours ago||
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winstonp 2 hours ago|
Yegge is a snake oil salesman
dang 2 hours ago|
Please don't post personal attacks to HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

Thoughtful critique is of course fine but there's no need to be personal, and it should be something we can learn from.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

karmakaze 2 hours ago||
Does the apparent rugpull on the $GAS meme coin[0] qualify?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Yegge#Vibe_coding_and_cr...

nl 33 minutes ago|||
Getting sucked into a crypto scam and then deciding to get out, despite the death threats(!)[1] is not a rug pull.

To be clear, the BAGS scam coin he got sucked into is a extractive zero-sum game where someone else creates a coin named after him, offers him trading commission to talk about it and then makes money off the hype.

He did the correct thing by leaving.

(I worked for a bit at a Web3 place. Went in with an open mind and now have opinions)

[1] https://x.com/Steve_Yegge/status/2043127887059210470

yieldcrv 18 minutes ago||
yeah its kind of sad, because people have to then re-evaluate others they heard about who they also didn't believe the apologies of at the time

like the Hawk Tuah girl, or the Enron relaunch long form comedy routine that wound up with a short lived crypto token, and pretty much anyone with 15 minutes of fame or celebrities that drop a contract address

for the most part, they themselves actually are the victims of a roving band of deployers running the crypto launch convincing them they're part of something, and of course, the consumers have the choice of never getting involved

but the deployers are the ones that should face some form of accountability, or at least the public eye

0xbadcafebee 1 hour ago||||
The description on Wikipedia looks like somebody else created a memecoin in his honor, sent him the profits, and he accepted them? And the only people harmed were people who invest in random memecoins? I don't understand the problem.
actionfromafar 1 hour ago|||
To me, no, not quite. I'll give him one free pass. More like "I'll coast on this pulled rug to see what happens" than that he did the rug pull. Not a very wise thing to do, but not malicious either.