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Posted by omer_k 19 hours ago

The RAM shortage could last years(www.theverge.com)
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1o1o1o1o1 3 hours ago|
Hilarious, The ram in my PC i built 5 years ago is will soon be worth more than i spent on building the whole PC.
aidenn0 3 hours ago|
I was about to give away my old PC, but I think it could be worth my hassle to sell it for the RAM now (64GB DDR4).
cozzyd 3 hours ago||
I bought a workstation with 3 TB of ram for FDTD simulations last year. Glad I got it then ...
tomaytotomato 18 hours ago||
I just checked my gaming PC I built a few years ago with 64GB of DDR5 RAM, its actually gone up in value, that is unheard of generally.

Think I will scrap my PC and sell its parts.

I wonder if there are any niche companies building decent rigs with DDR3 and 5/6th generation Intel CPUs out there, it is cheap and might be a business opportunity?

theandrewbailey 16 hours ago||
I work at an e-waste recycling company. I have several dozen trays of RAM in my inventory, ~90% of it DDR3. DDR3 was selling as of a month ago, but I haven't tried to sell any RAM since. I'm looking forward to doing a huge one this week.
0xDEFACED 3 hours ago||
do you have an online storefront?
HerbManic 5 hours ago||
I am still running a DDR3 2nd Gen i7. 32GB RAM, it is surprisingly comfortable but I also dont push it too hard.
lousken 17 hours ago||
If only we have not allowed oligopolies to exist. Meanwhile, EU is not in the race at all and US has very few fabs.
wmf 3 hours ago|
People don't want to pay more every day so they can pay less in an emergency.
Gud 18 hours ago||
Thank god they shut down 3D XPoint.
WhereIsTheTruth 6 hours ago||
Fabricated shortage to fasten US Chip Act and US Chip Security Act
shevy-java 6 hours ago||
I want those AI companies that drove the prices up, to pay an immediate back-tax to all of us.

I don't want to pay more because of AI companies driving the price up. That is milking.

jmyeet 5 hours ago||
This is simple extrapolation from current demand, nothing more. And that's a borderline silly analysis because it assumes the AI bubble won't burst. The great misadventure in the Persian Gulf probably accelerates that because we're almost certainly going to be facing a recession.

Another thing I've been thinking about is what happens when the next generation of NVidia chips comes out? I suspect NVidia is going to delay this to milk the current demand but at some point you'll be able to buy something that's better than the H100 or B200 or whatever the current state-of-the-art for half the price. And what's that going to do to the trillions in AI DC investment?

I'm interested when the next bump in DRAM chip density is coming. That's going to change things although it seems like much of production has moved from consumer DRAM chips to HBM chips. So maybe that won't help at all.

I do think that companies will start seeing little ot no return from billions spent on AI and that's going to be aproblem. I also think that the hudnreds of billions of capital expenditure of OpenAI is going to come crashing down as there just isn't any even theoretical future revenue that can pay for all that.

wmf 3 hours ago|
something that's better than the current state-of-the-art for half the price. And what's that going to do to the trillions in AI DC investment?

They'll just spend whatever they were planning to spend and get more performance.

Hamuko 17 hours ago||
I'm personally hoping that one of the AI or data center companies is suddenly unable to pay for their bills and deflate the entire industry. Probably the only hope of things getting better before the 2030s.
tuetuopay 17 hours ago|
That’s likely to happen if all the talks about OpenAI pulling out of their wafer deals are true.
WesolyKubeczek 18 hours ago|
I fear that the real reason we do have a shortage, I mean, the real reason for the demand, is AI companies scooping what they can so that their competitors, whether existing or incumbent, can’t get to it.
tuetuopay 17 hours ago|
This was one of the theories behind the wafer buyout by OpenAI indeed. Pretty efficient way to make everyone panic and cut off of new hardware.
WesolyKubeczek 13 hours ago||
Was it debubked in any way (e.g. by OpenAI actually showing what they do with the wafers?)
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