Posted by Eridanus2 16 hours ago
You had me for a second :)
https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/jres/25/jresv25n5p489_A1b....
Not sure if it's mentioned in the article but microphones can be speakers too...
Only dynamic mics, which are relatively rare and seldom encountered without an attached preamp. The vast majority of mics for PCs are condensers and electrets.
Anything can be a speaker, briefly and only once, if you apply enough voltage to it...
Like another post mentioned, dynamic mics like the Shure SM58 mentioned here, can drive a cable directly or through a small built-in transformer. They're still used in live sound, though condensers have become quite common there too. Condensers still tend to have somewhat better behavior, such as signal-to-noise, than electrets.
Of course everything has to be amplified or fed to a digitizer at some point. The issue is where the preamp needs to be physically located.
These can be run in reverse as well, it requires CB custom electronics so it’s not something a lay person can do out of the box.
But you probsbly think about smaller form mics like found on headsets (Electrets).
We could do the reverse too, plug a microphone into the speaker jack and hear sounds coming out from it.
Same interchangeability with solar panels, transformers, thermoelectric devices, etc. The effect might be big or small, depending on the setup, but the physics is happening either way.
I’ve spent time lost in space thinking about how much stuff is really just a copper wire in various configurations.
Have a copper wire - it’s an antenna, magnet, inductor, fuse, thermometer, heater, and strain gauge.
Put another copper wire near it - it’s a capacitor.
Curl one more than the other - it’s a transformer.
Put iron on it - it’s a thermocouple.
Put electricity through it - it’s a peltier cooler.
Add salt water - it’s a battery.
Put electricity through it - the iron is now a permanent magnet.
Wave the permanent magnet near it - it’s a generator and a microphone.
Put electricity through it again - it’s a motor and a speaker.
Heat it up and it’ll make Cuprous Oxide - it’s a solar panel and a diode.
Put electricity into it - it’s an LED.
I hear what you did there
Source: I used to measure the “microphone” frequency response for a kiosk OEM.
And they literally just used off the shelf, bog standard stereo speakers to use as a mic. Insane.
Given that such a mic would be several feet from the driver and poor audio quality could directly result in daily lost revenue for this business that sees revenue 100x to 1000x more than even high end audio equipment during this time period every month, I would've assumed they would've at least used a special membrane or more optimal type of speaker, but apparently not.
Sidenote: Obviously I used an LLM to research this (not to write, this is all certified organic human-generated text), and I just gotta say, isn't it absolutely delightful to be able to satisfy such random, obtuse curiosities like this one on a whim? This kind of question would've normally required a fair bit of googling to confidently validate, to the point I most likely wouldn't have even attempted to do so.
It was also my first “fuzz pedal” because the sound never came out clean :)
Jack retasking, although documented in applicable technical specifications, is not well-known, as was mentioned by the Linux audio developer
This could be a "bubble effect"; the Realtek codecs mentioned have a Windows utility to configure the jacks, which countless otherwise non-technical users would've seen and interacted with, so awareness of this feature is probably higher than they think. Fun fact: the "ALC" prefix in their codec names stands for Avance Logic, which was acquired by Realtek and they just kept that prefix well into the HD Audio era.
To really take it to that next level, snap the headphones in half when you get up on stage for a lollipop. Even seen one bring a corded phone and cradle to a set.