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Posted by schappim 10 hours ago

John Ternus to become Apple CEO(www.apple.com)
1498 points | 758 commentspage 5
thimabi 10 hours ago|
I don’t closely follow the news about Apple and now I’m wondering why they decided to go forward with this change at this moment.

As the world undergoes increasing supply chain issues, wouldn’t it be in Apple’s best interest to keep Tim Cook as CEO for a while? Or is he the one who’s looking to transition to a less demanding position?

ghaff 10 hours ago||
Cook is also 65 and doubtless has more money than god. He's been a great success and it's not unreasonable to think he may have wanted to start riding into the sunset. Apple's wishes are irrelevant at some level.
wombatpm 10 hours ago|||
I think supply chain optimization is untenable in a chaotic global trade environment. You don’t need to be an expert to buy from more suppliers and lay in a supply of stock. JIT falls apart when tariffs go from 20% to 120% to 15% based on whims and court cases.
Gagarin1917 10 hours ago|||
Tim must have wanted to enjoy 4/20 without worrying about company drug testing.
arduanika 10 hours ago||
He already had the trail of his retirement mapped out, and picked the perfect moment to blaze it.
LarsDu88 10 hours ago||
Probably didn't want to sit through any more executive kowtow meetings with the Orange Man
ChrisMarshallNY 6 hours ago||
Sounds like a good choice. Glad to have an engineer in charge. Tim Cook is no spring chicken. I do hope Ternus maintains the focus on privacy.

That focus on privacy pisses off a lot of devs (Yours Truly, included), but I sincerely believe in it. I write apps that Serve a demographic that values privacy.

Fanofilm 4 hours ago||
Apple needed a "AI CEO". Hopefully John Ternus is Apple's "AI CEO". That is the win-vs-lose.

Apple included.

mizzao 3 hours ago|
Apple accidentally has a giant moat in having the only hardware that can run AI models locally on consumer products, plus not having thrown a huge pile of money into the tar pit of model training, which is ultimately becoming a race to the bottom with identical products, perfect competition, and razor thin (currently negative) margins.

They're gonna be fine in the AI age just like Costco was able to be a honey badger about e-commerce.

nntwozz 8 hours ago||
Cook will handle the politics and optics, he will remain like a king representing Apple without any true power.

Ternus will be the soldier in the trenches.

I feel excitement for the future of Apple.

RaoulP 10 hours ago||
For a long time I was hoping it would be Jeff Williams. For the brief moments these heads at Apple get the spotlight, I always felt he gave off a sense of humanity and sincerity.
smeeth 10 hours ago||
I'm quite curious what Tim Cook's legacy will end up being.

There is no question many of Apple's business experienced significant, impressive growth during his tenure. Amazing capital efficiency.

There is also no question Apple lost product velocity. Few new products were launched, and those that were had mixed success.

Tim was, at the end of the day, an elite financial operator. Apple shareholders were lucky to have him. Customers like myself probably have mixed opinions, and it remains to be seen how he set the company up for the future.

tptacek 10 hours ago||
Things he effectively presided over:

* Apple Silicon, the most far-reaching technical transformation in the company's history (probably a bigger deal than macOS itself)

* Apple Pay

* The Watch and Airpods product categories, both of which Apple now dominates.

All while holding on to its position in phones and improving (drastically) its computers.

It feels like a pretty successful term.

smeeth 10 hours ago|||
Tim was a great CEO.

I'm just pointing out product velocity slowed. I'm far from the first person to say it, it's just a fact. In the five years before Cook we got first generation Apple TV, iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Air. Your list spans 14 years.

dwaite 10 hours ago||
One could add the Vision Pro, MacBook Neo, Mac Studio, HomePods, and so on to the list as well.

The reality is everyone just wants another hit product like the iPhone, but its success was based on it being a personal convergence device. You can't really create a second carryable/wearable convergence device and expect it to be wildly successful at the level of the iPhone without it killing off the iPhone.

So far that revolutionary approach by third parties has not succeeded against the iPhone, and the evolutionary approach apple takes with the iPhone means there is no clear inflection point anywhere in the future where the phone form factor goes away.

carefree-bob 8 hours ago||||
Yes, a very successful CEO and he secured a great legacy. I was skeptical when Jobs stepped down, but under Cook innovation did continue, but primarily in hardware.
caycep 7 hours ago|||
Also the discipline in not blowing massive R&D chasing AI; but having the machines/architecture best suited to said AI...
fckgw 10 hours ago|||
> Few new products were launched, and those that were had mixed success.

Tim oversaw the launch of the Apple Watch, Airpods, Airtags, Apple Pay, the Beats acquisition (which lead to Apple Music) and the launch of the M series chips.

He's had quite a few product launches under his belt, many of them company-defining products.

kube-system 10 hours ago||
The M series transition was perfectly executed, but that trajectory was set up before Jobs left when they went all-in on in-house semiconductor design.
basisword 9 hours ago||
Come on. Attributing a product to a guy that died 15 years ago instead of the guy running the company for the last 15 years is absurd.
kube-system 9 hours ago|||
Apple released their first in-house ARM processor 16 years ago, and the M series is descendent from that lineage and acquisitions that got them started in that business such as PA Semi and Intrinsity.

Cook absolutely deserves credit for the successful desktop ARM transition, but building ARM processors in-house was in no way something he directed as CEO.

wpm 6 hours ago|||
PA Semi was acquired in 2008.

Jobs was likely very burned out on IBM failing to deliver a 3Ghz PowerPC G5 and one with a low enough TDP for a PowerBook.

So he switches to Intel because he needs chips, but the vulnerability still exists, and it's what happened again after the Skylake launch and the ensuing 4 years of terrible Macs designed for silicon that didn't exist.

Steve saw the danger, and probably acquired PA Semi because of it as well as the fact that PA Semi actually did deliver a power efficient PowerPC G5, even if it was a bit late.

Steve had the vision. Cook executed it very well. They both deserve credit.

oldnetguy 10 hours ago|||
His legacy is he used Apple to help build China into a technological powerhouse at the expense of American workers.

https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/06/17/g-s1-72...

j16sdiz 5 hours ago|||
Can you say the same for tesla or cisco?
ebbi 8 hours ago|||
That's a pretty reductive take.
drowntoge 10 hours ago|||
To me, Tim Cook has turned Apple into a company that is both “doing amazingly well” and “in urgent need of a radical change in direction” at the same time.

We’ll see how the new CEO sees it.

lunarboy 10 hours ago|||
FaceID, AirPods, Apple Silicon, Vision Pro (though it was flop was a good try). Overall, I would actually place Tim above Steve in terms of business, although maybe not from a Human Computer Interaction design novelty perspective
shrubble 10 hours ago|||
What did they shut down? Aperture comes to mind, anything else?
jshier 8 hours ago||
Many of their acquired pro tools, and pretty much all of their server hardware and software, though much of that started before Cook took over. Plus the Mac Pro missteps were on his watch, as well as the current cancellation. Apple seems more and more unwilling to invest in niche hardware like the Mac Pro, except where they see it pushing the platform forward, like the Vision Pro.
basisword 9 hours ago||
>> Few new products were launched

I don't think this is true. Apple Watch is basically in a market of its own. iPad might have existed before Cook but he turned it into something people actually use for stuff. Vision Pro may not be a financial success but the tech is impressive and it's clear that work will pay off in the near term in other wearables. Apple Silicon is a phenomenal success. Apple TV is no longer a hobby and he's been at the helm while they've developed their entire services business. AirPods rule the headphone market. Not mention the numerous Mac variants he presided over.

cobckm 9 hours ago||
Tim has done an amazing job in the post-Jobs era with his logistics. Brought Apple from $350B to $4T. This move makes perfect sense as Apple needs to start their next chapter with how rapid the world is changing at the moment. I do hope Apple's values don't change going into this new era.
detectivestory 10 hours ago||
And John Ternus will be CEO
arjunthazhath 2 hours ago|
Tim did cook well!!
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