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Posted by codezero 8 hours ago

Girl, 10, finds rare Mexican axolotl under Welsh bridge(www.bbc.com)
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shevy-java 6 hours ago|
Imagine if it were the other way around:

Mexican axolotl, 10, finds rare Girl under Welsh bridge.

hibberl6 3 hours ago||
That would make her description in the article as a "young female" a little more fitting, at least.
nilslindemann 4 hours ago||
And how we would react if it catched her and put her in a small cage.
markhahn 7 hours ago||
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varispeed 4 hours ago||
Imagine axolotl husband now cries of missing wife.
motbus3 4 hours ago||
These damn mexican immigrants are everywhere! Just kidding. I love you mexican folks, just couldn't miss the joke
nom 7 hours ago|
This is so unlikely to happen. There is a good chance that they are not as rare as we currently think, at least in that particular area.
culi 7 hours ago||
They are unique to like 2 lakes in Mexico. This is someone's pet that they dumped there. It would not have survived more than a week in Wales had it not been found.
prmoustache 5 hours ago||
There were more than 2 lakes but the specy is almost extinct so these areas are where you can still find some.
culi 5 hours ago||
Well it's native to the Xochimilco "lake system". Sometimes its hard to say what's a different lake or not but it's the same system of lakes. They also used to be in Lake Chalco which at certain times of the year could connect into the same lake as Xochimilco. Regardless, it's always been a tiny range
prmoustache 5 hours ago||
My understanding is they were in other mountainous areas as well in central Mexico but their habitat was much more reduced there so they went extinct even faster.

one example: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/382147531_Chronicle...

culi 4 hours ago||
This paper is about the closely related Ambystoma velasci. The axolotl is Ambystoma mexicanum.

They are closely related enough that there's some evidence of hybridization but they are separate species. A. velasci is not endangered.

prmoustache 4 hours ago||
A. Velasci is definitely endangered in its natural habitats and it was also called Axolotl in nahuatl.

I don't think it is interesting to argue if there is one axolotl that is more important than the others, even if the one from Xochimilco has the particularity of staying in its larval state.

culi 2 hours ago||
Ambystoma velasci is actually classified as "Least Concern" by the IUCN

https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/62130287/53974804

I'm not arguing one is more important than the other but only one of them is critically endangered and only one of them is a powerful cultural indigenous symbol.

Ambystoma velasci is also an "actual" salamander. The unique thing about the axolotl is that it never goes to the stage where it leaves the water. It is the only salamander species known to do this.

codezero 7 hours ago|||
I think it likely speaks to how much more common they are as exotic pets than they have been in the past. That she found it before it died is surprising, and the longer I think about this story the longer I wonder if they just bought it as a pet and the river discovery was a gag for online clout.
kreyenborgi 7 hours ago|||
One in a million chances happen nine times out of ten.

Especially with 8 billion humans wandering around.

rishikeshs 4 hours ago||
why is your reply faded