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Posted by nkrisc 1 day ago

US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400k on Maduro raid(www.cnn.com)
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/us-soldier-charged-usin...
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curious1008 19 hours ago|
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notTheLastMan 23 hours ago||
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penguin_booze 22 hours ago|||
Coming up: US supreme court declares insider trading constitutinal.
paulpauper 1 day ago||
lol no SEC lawsuit or civil complaint: strait to the indictment and arrest. Goes to show how elites are truly a privileged class. They get to admit "no guilt" and forfeit profits, avoiding prosecution. Have no idea why this was downvoted. I see so many other people who make this argument about privileged elites and always get upvoted. I never have the right opinion on anything.
JumpCrisscross 1 day ago|
> no SEC lawsuit or civil complaint

The suspect didn't trade securities. SEC doesn't have jurisdiction. The curiosity–to me as a layman–is that this is being prosecuted by the DoJ versus under the UCMJ.

paulpauper 1 day ago||
Then what laws were broken if it is not insider trading?
JumpCrisscross 23 hours ago|||
> what laws were broken

"Van Dyke was indicted on charges that included unlawful use of confidential information for personal gain, theft of nonpublic government information, commodities fraud, and wire fraud."

genxy 20 hours ago||
How does this not apply to Trump and the rest of congress? Billions in market manipulation.
JumpCrisscross 19 hours ago|||
It’s a good question. I don’t know. Unfortunately, my circle is mostly in securities, and thus that is not.
next_xibalba 1 day ago|||
Probably something related to leaking or unauthorized use of classified information.
_DeadFred_ 1 day ago||
Isn't this the purpose of Polymarket? To give a more accurate picture of what is going on/going to happen by giving insiders a financial incentive?
meric_ 23 hours ago||
Polymarket isn't doing anything about it. It's the US government because obviously while I suppose this info made a more accurate "prediction" it also yk, leaked confidential state military secrets which is something the government can prosecute. They're not being prosecuted for insider trading on Polymarket
stubish 22 hours ago|||
Insider bets distort the probabilities, creating a conflict of interest and causing market manipulation. We don't let athletes bet on their own games, because some will deliberately lose. They will do this when the odds are good and they will make more money. So you don't get accurate predictions, because the more probable something is, the better the odds and the more money to be made by someone manipulating the odds.

End result is you place bets against things you want to happen. eg. USA invading Iran. If you win the bet, you make money. If you lose the bet, you still win because the USA invaded Iran. And maybe that happened because people in power took your bet and influenced the odds in their favor. A fully deniable market for bribes. Same reason you can't bet on unnatural death, because it crowdsources assassination.

s1artibartfast 22 hours ago|||
Sure, but the purpose of the FBI is to go after people leaking classified military Intel.

Different people and organizations in this world have different goals. More news 10.

fuzzfactor 23 hours ago||
I thought so too. Giving people with insider info a chance to make a buck in ways they didn't have before.

Not my downvote btw, corrective upvote now applied.

polski-g 1 day ago|
How is this illegal? Polymarket isn't a US-regulated market.
junar 1 day ago||
From the indictment, he's being charged with the following:

* Unlawful Use of Confidential Government Information for Personal Gain

* Theft of Nonpublic Government Information

* Commodities Fraud

* Wire Fraud

* Engaging in a Monetary Transaction in Property Derived from Specified Unlawful Activity

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/media/1437781/dl

paulpauper 1 day ago||
So had this not involved presumed military secrets, it would have been legal? So it was the classified info that made it a crime, and then the insider trading aspect was later tacked on? It's crazy how the government adds so many charges. This guy is screwed.
gdulli 1 day ago||
That's part of the Chesterton's Fence nature of why these markets are bad. We know insider trading is a bad thing for the stock market, so it's policed. These markets, being a post-regulation internet free for all, aren't.
gpm 1 day ago|||
It's rather obviously illegal to leak classified intel by taking public actions based off of it... that's practically the meaning of the word "classified".
georgemcbay 1 day ago||
It is illegal to leak classified intel if you're just an average person.

If you're the Trump hand-picked Secretary of the War Department then it is not illegal and will never be punished.

Always remember which tier of justice you are on prior to committing a crime!

Rekindle8090 23 hours ago||
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mcmcmc 19 hours ago|||
Not true, they lobbied very hard to be regulated under the CFTC because of its more relaxed rules
ivewonyoung 23 hours ago||
Polymarket isn't being accused or charged with wrongdoing.
kevin_thibedeau 23 hours ago||
They directed the right size bri...consulting fee to Jr.