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Posted by hmokiguess 7 hours ago

Google Flow Music(www.flowmusic.app)
119 points | 93 commentspage 3
florilegiumson 4 hours ago|
AI music generators are not my cup of tea, but it was fun trying to get it to create this fever dream machine. https://www.flowmusic.app/space/2dc0e63f-a27c-4f4f-91c9-60e8...

I especially love the glitchy ui sounds, although I suspect it's hardly intentional.

_sys49152 2 hours ago||
what would make these udio/suno type services better? tighter training data? exclude the muzak? how would one even go about doing that?
dabinat 7 hours ago||
I’m a little confused about the pricing packages. In what scenario would being able to create 600 songs a month (20/day) be too few?

I could understand if this was an API that people built products around, but it seems to be geared directly at consumers.

smallerfish 6 hours ago||
If it's anything like suno, it probably takes you 30 to 40 attempts to dial in what you were looking for. (And don't get me wrong, the results can be great with suno - there's just a lot of trial and error, and dice rolling.)
numpad0 4 hours ago|||
I don't know anything about these AI tools, but it seems to me like, the yield rates of all these AI media generators are exactly in the range of that of lootbox games. Kids "pull" it like slot machines for set prompt, keeping no more than 1% of outputs. The rest is just thrown away, only potentially useful as negative data. So 600 per month total is probably like just couples per month usable.
janalsncm 3 hours ago||
That’s a huge amount of messing around to get those handful of songs then. If only 1% are good, you’re pulling the lever 100x more than you should need to.
mh- 2 hours ago||
Putting commentary about AI media aside:

How many iterations (arrangements and recordings) do you think a typical Billboard pop song goes through before it's ready for a final mix and mastering?

Go find a YouTube of someone doing this work, it is kind of mind blowing. Given how expensive studio time is, you realize why it costs so much for a popular artist to produce a polished album.

999900000999 5 hours ago||
Eminem allegedly has hundreds of songs in the vault.

Odds are for every 200 ai songs you generate , 2 or 3 are decent.

Anyway. UMG will probably force you to sign over training rights in future record deals.

The models still can't rap. Sounds like if you asked someone who didn't know what rap was to read a script

ttul 3 hours ago||
Here's my personal take on what I'll call the new realm of "AI art". Whether it's prompting a music model or an image model, there is a huge space for creative output, limited only by the human imagination. Sure, tossing in a single prompt and letting the model crap out something will produce "slop". But if you pour your heart into exploring the high-dimensional landscape of the model, you can find truly amazing stuff. This is no different than exploring the creative landscape of music, photography, and other forms of art in the pre-LLM era.

I find that people who rush to negative judgement of LLM-generated art are not going far enough in the creative process to properly judge just how much juice there is to be squeezed out of those 50-billion-dimensional spaces.

bentt 2 hours ago||
I hate this and I hate that they think it's what they should be doing.

If Google can't see the difference between this and useful, moral AI tools then I worry for their path forward.

tlhunter 2 hours ago||
I hate how these tools ask me to type in some long prompt and then once I finish they tell me that I need to make an account.
minikomi 4 hours ago||
The descriptions generated from the prompts are almost always great, but the generated music is always terrible. The sound pallete seems so limited.
DiabloD3 5 hours ago||
Why did Google bother?

They're a music store, they sell music, both to own, but also renting their vast library out.

Google should learn not to shit where they eat.

wirgil1 3 hours ago||
big tech companies are 50 companies in a trench coat, there isn't some great aligning directive. Feels like some random side project some employees felt like making.
inerte 3 hours ago|||
Because of ads and background music for YouTube.
tredre3 5 hours ago||
Welcome to 2026's reality, most new music is already AI-generated. I don't like it, but it is what it is. YT Music is already full of AI slop, those tools aren't changing that.

If anything it gives Google control of the entire production->sale->delivery process.

I'm honestly not seeing a downside for Google here, can you elaborate?

jdiff 3 hours ago|||
Most new music by what definition? I'm certain more stuff is being churned out by these automated tools than genuine human creativity, but that doesn't make it economically relevant if the only use it's seeing is random high school kids' YouTube channels. It's not seeing streams on services, it's not bringing in revenue once created.
DiabloD3 5 hours ago|||
I just keep reporting AI slop videos (incl music) on YT, and sometimes the videos or even entire channel vanish. I hope I'm contributing to this process to keep YT safe, but I'm just one guy, and they probably have a much bigger effort internally.

The downside for Google is, ultimately, the death of the company. Nobody wants AI slop, and go out of their way to actively avoid it and punish companies that promote it. Google already is running a huge risk by pushing Gemini into every service, and permanently burning customers and users with it.

Microsoft is already seeing the downside of trying to Copilot everything. Their software is now partly slop, shit randomly breaks, companies cancel Azure/Office subscriptions and move to on-prem, FOSS, etc. They've pumped their brakes quite a lot, but the damage may be too great to mitigate now.

If Google wants to lose money in the long run, then by all means, please continue.

somewhatgoated 4 hours ago||
The people in charge here don’t give a fuck about the long term. Reap as much profits for yourself as you can before everything inevitably collapses - that’s the prevailing current trend. Let the lizard brain take over and just feel good in the moment, why worry about the future.
DiabloD3 4 hours ago||
Unfortunately, this is probably true for Google.

Once you have that particular brand of cancer, its too late to save the company without drastic measures.

zackify 5 hours ago||
This thing is insane i already made multiple songs in english and spanish, different genres
giancarlostoro 5 hours ago|
This is how I use Suno, guess I'll give this a fair try.
ryanwhitney 5 hours ago|
> Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).

Nice

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