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Posted by koshyjohn 1 day ago

AI should elevate your thinking, not replace it(www.koshyjohn.com)
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HgT3 21 hours ago|
It doesn't elevate thinking no matter how you use it. It is a lookup tool at best.

For the new prompt engineers I suggest the following title:

  MCSE => Microsoft Certified Slop Engineer
lvl155 20 hours ago||
95% of the population is educated to think inside of the box and just rely on repetition/memorization. There’s not a lot of thinking happening in this world outside of a very small group of people. AI is not going to change that reality at least not until we educate our children for the AI age.
bitwize 4 hours ago||
This is one of those happy little lies we tell ourselves, you know, like Agile is to help us collaborate better. No, your company adopted Agile so that upper management has near-real-time feedback in how teams are doing, who are the top performers and who are the stragglers.

When it comes to AI, the entire value proposition is that it is a substitute for human thought. Your thought is now no longer as valuable, and it is also no longer the bottleneck. That's the reality.

"Oh it's just here to remove the drudgery and let us focus on what's really important." When it comes to many forms of knowledge work, including programming, the "drudgery" is the important bit. Doing the long, slow work of integrating systems is how you gain intimate knowledge of the shapes of those systems. "Oh, you just have to think at a higher level of abstraction now." Since "higher levels of abstraction" are all about removing details, in the end this means less information to be manipulated, hence less thinking that you are responsible for.

Make no mistake, we programmers are coal miners, and the world is going solar punk. Have a nice day.

teaearlgraycold 1 day ago||
I think many of us have interviewed people with 10+ YoE, and resumes that seem impressive, and then seen them fail to do much of anything in evaluations. I expect this problem to get significantly worse. There will be a class of people tucked into organizations where they can get away with sitting in meetings and YOLOing AI code for years.
dyauspitr 1 day ago||
Convenience is king. We became fat and unhealthy because high calorie foods are cheap and easy. We will become stupid because AI will do our thinking for us. There’s no way around it. Only a small percentage of the population are capable of perpetual self control. The old world forced you to be healthy, there was no other choice. Now there are like 15 things you have to have self control to do the hard work at even though you can get the same results the easy way. Working out, dieting, “proper” social interaction, sleep timing, child rearing, social meetups, career networking etc. The list is never ending and none of it is organic like it used to be.
joe_the_user 1 day ago||
Post title is completely misleading relative to the article. Article title: "A.I. Should Elevate Your Thinking, Not Replace It"
stavros 1 day ago||
Skills you don't need, atrophy. Skills you need, don't. It's very simple, and the "you won't have the skills you used to need but don't need any more!" line of reasoning is tired and invalid.
miyoji 1 day ago||
That's not how it works, unfortunately. Skills you use stay fresh, skills you don't practice get rusty and fade away. You might need things you aren't using anymore.

If you never walk, your legs get weak, you gain weight, your aerobic system loses capacity, and you lose the ability to walk. You don't need it, you say, because you have your car and your mobility scooter and you'll always have these things. Your crutches don't make you weaker, you can still do everything the walkers can do, you say.

Good luck with the nature hike!

stavros 1 day ago||
Sure. What are these programming skills you never need but that you're going to need at some indeterminate time in the future?
mtrifonov 15 hours ago||
Half-agree. "Skills you need, don't atrophy" assumes you know which skills you need. You usually don't, until something happens and the skill that would've caught it is the one you stopped maintaining.

Most "I didn't realize I needed that" moments arrive after the atrophy is already done.

erxam 1 day ago||
Here's the question I want to posit and nobody who's against AI has managed to answer satisfactorily: what is it in for me if I were to acquire all those skills?

I don't give a shit about this career. I don't give a shit about engineering. I despise every second of it. There's nothing to aim for other than being a drone that does whatever is asked of it.

If AI can reduce my mental workload, why wouldn't I want to delegate everything over to it so I can save my faculties for what I truly enjoy? For the art of a worthless craft?

_pdp_ 1 day ago||
Some people enjoy working with computers. :) It is not always about the money. It is also about having fun and learning new things.

For you, it seems that you are not cut for it judging from what you say.

So yes, use LLMs.

sumeno 1 day ago|||
Why are you employable if the AI does everything for you?
erxam 20 hours ago|||
Mostly to do the work that AI can't do just yet. I've got the feeling that, by the time AI can do those jobs, we'll be mired in bigger issues.
LtWorf 22 hours ago||
I mean… there's other jobs in the world. If you chose to do something you hate, that's maybe a bit your fault too?
erxam 20 hours ago||
Tell me where these mythical jobs that won't leave me broke as shit and that I'll enjoy are. I'm very much a humanities person, and it was already a sad tragicomedy of a sphere before AI hit the ground. It's probably even more dire now, let's be real.

And I don't have the personality for running a start-up or any company, unfortunately. I'm extremely risk-averse and withdrawn. If I really had no other choice, I'd probably have to budget in a ton of... chemical helpers (stimulants).

LtWorf 15 hours ago||
I think you hate life in general more than just your job.

Anyway statistician, accountant, teacher, are indeed jobs, and I assure you they aren't found living on the streets.

eleumik 23 hours ago||
Bellissimo
julienfr112 1 day ago|
Structure engineer can't either any more build bridge or tower without CAD or FDM
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