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Posted by oceansky 5 days ago

Denuvo has been cracked in all single-player games it previously protected(www.tomshardware.com)
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h4kunamata 5 days ago|
I find it ironic people mad at Denuvo and yet play games like Battlefield which enforces kernel level spyware nonetheless haha
c0balt 5 days ago||
The main difference that Denuvo does nothing to improve the experience of the end user.

I don't like Anti-Cheat solutions with elevated privileges but they have (at least for some time) reduced the number of Cheaters in games like Valorant or BF, for most users this is at least a somewhat understandable tradeoff. Denuvo on the other hand is DRM and a pure tradeoff in favor of the publisher at the cost of the consumed.

richwater 17 hours ago||
I would say it was wildly successful in Valorant.
akimbostrawman 4 days ago|||
There is a user argument for anti cheat as a user = less cheater.

There is no user argument for DRM, if anything there are many against it = higher game price/less money for the actual game and devs, indirect funding of DRM software, worse performance, higher system requirements, worse preservation, worse privacy, longer loading times, online requirements, worse usability, machine activation restriction, bugs...

kenhwang 17 hours ago|||
Kernel level anti-cheat also doesn't introduce a giant performance penalty like Denuvo-style DRM. People just want to play their games without it still stuttering on top of the line hardware.
not_a9 13 hours ago||
Anticheats will still have obfuscated code for obvious reasons (they don’t want to be reversed). Not sure they don’t induce some performance drop too - though maybe smaller compared to bad Denuvo implementation.
Capricorn2481 15 hours ago|||
Pretty strong to say there's no argument. I don't agree with it, but I imagine people would say reducing piracy leads to more money for the studio, which means more resources that can be put toward the game. Lots of people believe that, and we don't have a lot of data on opportunity costs for games including Denuvo.

I personally just hate it and think Piracy is overblown. The only other industry I've seen be this hostile to users is Music/Photoshop. Putting an iLok key into my computer feels bad.

akimbostrawman 3 hours ago||
>but I imagine people would say reducing piracy leads to more money for the studio

they be wrong, there have been multiple studies even by the EU on how piracy does not reduce revenue.

Besides that studios continue to pay for denuvo even after there game has been cracked. The article literally is about how all games with denuvo get bypassed on the day of the release, which means they pay for nothing except a worse experience for there paying customers. At this point it's just a compliance checklist by corporate suits and actual people working on games and paying customer pay the price.

gozucito 2 hours ago||
>a worse experience for there paying customers

Actually, the legit buyers experience is better because this bypass is not a "proper" crack

1. They have to disable Windows security features before playing

2. Reboot their PC twice (before and after)

3. They're still running Denuvo code, same as legit buyer

Legit buyers experience is thus significantly better than pirates.

Hikikomori 17 hours ago||
How are you protecting yourself at the game itself spying on you?
ticulatedspline 5 days ago||
Interesting to finally see some action from the mouse again. Was kinda sad to see that Denuvo embodies all the worst of DRM but was so thoroughly metastasized that it was nearly inoperable and they had effectively "won".
ranger_danger 17 hours ago||
No, it hasn't:

> in late 2025, the MKDev collective and the prolific DenuvOwO came up with a hypervisor-based bypass (HVB) that installs a kernel-level driver to intercept and respond to Denuvo's checks. While that's not an actual crack, it's good enough for piracy work, as the saying goes.

branon 11 hours ago||
Yeah, the headline is sensational and the body of the article doesn't do enough to distinguish between the bypass and a real crack. They only resemble one another only in the most shortsighted of ways.

One big difference is that the bypass method _requires_ Microsoft Windows in order to function. You cannot use the bypass on Linux.

I don't have a Windows install anywhere, so if I want to play the game I have to either purchase it, or wait for a crack that will remove Denuvo from the executable.

I get this probably doesn't matter to most people because they're on Windows anyway and will happily disable whatever security is required to access free games, but it's disappointing to have the technical distinctions and broader implications glossed over.

lossolo 16 hours ago||
This. It's bypassed, not cracked. All the games released need HVB to work. They use legit Denuvo licenses from other systems.
trympet 16 hours ago||
Do any of the legit scene groups sign their binaries? How do you know a release isn’t tainted?
aeyes 13 hours ago||
Info from veeery long ago because I have been out of this stuff for over a decade:

The release will have an .sfv file with a CRC32 checksum for each rar file.

The FTP server checks them after the upload completes. Back in the day glftpd with zipscript was a very popular tool to manage an FTP site. This Readme sums it up well: https://github.com/pzs-ng/pzs-ng

The sfv can be tampered with but the propagation of releases to FTPs happens very fast, within minutes. It would take you longer to meaningfully alter it than it takes the racers to distribute the original files. And once the release is completely uploaded you can't modify the files anymore.

If the release is bad, for example if it doesn't work at all or if it contains a virus, then it simply gets nuked. This propagates within minutes.

int0x29 12 hours ago|||
Relying on CRC32 for integrity under hostile circumstances feels deeply flawed.
huflungdung 6 hours ago|||
A) there is no real scene any more

B) no one is getting “proper scene releases” from “proper sources” any more.

r00t- 15 hours ago|||
It's not a scene release. You know a release isn't tainted when you grab it from the source...
gruez 15 hours ago||
That's the whole problem. There's no way to verify the authenticity of a release aside from "getting it from a trusted source" or whatever, whereas digital signatures would easily solve this issue.
p0w3n3d 7 hours ago||
Wow. Great. Congratulations. Achievement earned. You've persisted so long.

Now stop creating new DRMs. You can see what is the outcome. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

The only thing that made me switch to Netflix from π-rated movies was the accessibility, availability, languages support, speed and quality. The same with games. I buy games from gog mostly because they are missing DRM (and because I'm an old dinosaur so not interested in the bleeding edge new games).

Please focus on the added value. And the wealth will come. Don't pay for denuvo - it's waste of money

sitzkrieg 5 days ago||
good riddance. crazy to see game developers hemorrhaging money for malware
khaelenmore 5 days ago||
That's all you need to know about DRM - when "pirates" bypass it, paying users are taking the hit.

And I'm not speaking about cost of implementing a technology to actively make the product worse.

everyone 15 hours ago||
Fyi, most of them have not been cracked, but bypassed using a hypervisor that operates in ring-1, so it is certainly a security risk..

Personally I've been voting with my wallet and *never* supporting DRM, so there have been some games where I'm just "Well, I guess I'll never play that game." At least I have an ethical option to play certain games now, I'm just gonna use a seperate blank pc cus these bypasses are novel.

Gigachad 14 hours ago||
All software piracy is a security risk since they could embed malware in the game.
everyone 13 hours ago||
Running Windows is a massive risk cus its made by Microsoft and it has ring 0 access to your system. I personally trust a cracker in good standing far more that I would any corp.
Jtarii 15 hours ago||
Cracking refers to all methods of circumventing copy protection. Bypassing is just another way of cracking something.
branon 11 hours ago|||
Untrue, cracking software necessitates _removing_ the protection from the executable completely. Whereas with a bypass, Denuvo is still running on your computer, albeit ineffectually.

This has implications - the bypasses cannot run on Linux for example where a cracked executable could. They are not the same thing.

everyone 15 hours ago|||
Ehhh, afaik thats not the case in the community. These hypervisor bypasses are considered a different category. Like look at any scene page, they will 100% say Hypervisor or HV for these.
Jtarii 15 hours ago|||
They are referred to as Hypervisor cracks.
branon 11 hours ago|||
They are (correctly and most commonly) called hypervisor bypasses because they do not remove the DRM from the executable.
everyone 14 hours ago|||
Yeah I guess I was being pedantic. It doesnt matter. The important thing is that Deunvo is getting royally fucked.
TiredOfLife 11 hours ago|||
Last scene release with Denuvo crack was like 6 years ago.
throwawayk7h 9 hours ago||
I'm very interested to see how it was cracked, and how the anticheat works.
odie5533 12 hours ago|
Great news! I can finally feel comfortable buying games that have Denuvo day 1!
selectodude 12 hours ago|
Tough to decide who I trust less, denuvo or a ring-0 hypervisor I downloaded off BitTorrent.
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