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Posted by lmbbuchodi 12 hours ago

How ChatGPT serves ads(www.buchodi.com)
369 points | 244 commentspage 2
didip 11 hours ago|
So news about OpenAI demise is real. They can’t sustain themselves without ads.
boringg 11 hours ago||
Never in any world were any of the top AI labs not going to sustain themselves with ads. It has always been a timing issue.

Even a cut on every sale on site + sub rev not close.

saghm 10 hours ago||
Even if it wasn't necessary for their survival, it's hard to imagine a world where they wouldn't try to do it anyways. I'm not someone who buys into the idea that companies are obligated to maximize profits at the expense of all else, but I do think that in the absence of other factors (e.g. regulation) it's where pretty much every company will end up.
chrisweekly 10 hours ago||
"the idea that companies are obligated to maximize profits at the expense of all else"

!! That is literally the definition of legally-binding fiduciary resonsibility for publicly-traded corporations. There are exceptions (PBCs, B-Corps) but they're rare.

saghm 1 hour ago|||
Please cite your source for this. Everything I've ever read on the topic indicates that this is a vast oversimplification.
mafuy 4 hours ago||||
This is a completely stupid take and I have no idea why so many people repeat it. This responsibility just means you have to have to document your work understandably and have a somewhat sensible reason for decisions. It does not at all force you to greed.
hattmall 10 hours ago|||
It's really not though.
SubjectToChange 10 hours ago|||
They can’t be hemorrhaging cash when they IPO.
sayYayToLife 10 hours ago||
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holotherapper 10 hours ago||
The schema is literally named single_advertiser_ad_unit. The single_ prefix is doing all the foreshadowing you need.
lionkor 3 hours ago||
Can't wait to see how the next election(s) turn out--I'm unsure that a properly well funded campaign would skip the opportunity.
keyle 12 hours ago||
Can't wait for "watch this ad for 90s to use xxhigh on your next prompt!"
quantummagic 4 hours ago||
So, we need a lightweight local LLM, that is tuned to remove ads from online LLM results.
agentbc9000 5 hours ago||
Google was built on ads and it wasn't bad for them, its no some tabu forbiden word or business model- as a power users its not for us, but for my mom - it will work
tossandthrow 5 hours ago||
Adds should be a tabu word and business model.

It takes people's attention, makes people fat and anxious and generally makes the world a worse place.

Everybody using adds as a part of their business model should feel bad.

As an extention of this there is no moral issues with using add blockers, despite what the businesses living of adds try to tell you.

pickleRick243 4 hours ago||
I agree. Also, Linkedin and CV's shouldn't exist. Self-promotion is gauche.
avdelazeri 3 hours ago||
I don't think this is the slam dunk you think this is. LinkedIn's existence is, in fact, a net negative for the human race.
skywhopper 5 hours ago|||
Bad for them how? I would argue it has destroyed the value of Google as a tool. Sure it makes them tens of billions of dollars a quarter, but it has ruined the service in the end.
kakacik 5 hours ago||
Seems like people care about paychecks a bit more than some lofty goals and service to others.
agentbc9000 2 minutes ago||
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tornikeo 5 hours ago||
Ads fund the "free" internet. Like it or not, that's the price of the "free" compute. I only hope OpenAI won't enshittify paid offerings just like Anthropic did.
djmips 12 hours ago||
And it begins.
jonah 10 hours ago||
I was looking to see if BZR referred to a 3rd party ad network. I didn't find anything, but apparently someone has replicated OAI's system and you can run insert it into your own LLM.

GH: system32miro/ai-ads-engine

vicchenai 12 hours ago|
figured this was inevitable once they started the free tier. the attribution loop being a separate event stream is actually kind of clever engineering though -- means they can A/B test ad formats without touching the core model response
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