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Posted by bozdemir 3 hours ago

Show HN: Rip.so – a graveyard for dead internet things(rip.so)
69 points | 38 commentspage 2
us-merul 1 hour ago|
Awesome site. I wonder how much of this is tied to the pre-mobile, desktop era. I never really thought of it that way, but I guess that’s where a lot of early Web nostalgia comes from.
shahabebrahimi 1 hour ago||
This brought a lot of memories to me. Good job.
flexagoon 2 hours ago||
Why are "personal homepages" listed as dead? Sure, they're not as ubiquitous as they used to be, but almost every tech-adjacent person I know has one. Webrings and guestbooks are also very much still a thing. I'd say they are far from dead.
myself248 58 minutes ago||
They used to be part of your ISP. You got a usenet server, and a mail server and a web server with a certain amount of space, just as part of signing up.

This meant that everyone had one, you didn't have to go sign up somewhere else. You still could if you wanted to have a URL that didn't have your ISP's name in it.

malfist 51 minutes ago||
Did they? I've been around for ages (I know the dial up tone by heart). My early ISPs at best offered a mailbox (not a mail server), no web server, Usenet was extra.

And few people used the ISP mailbox because you couldn't take it with you when you left. Hell, I got my gmail during the invite only era

bozdemir 2 hours ago|||
I guess mainly because of insta, facebook and other social media platforms, but I am a fan of old days. But our numbers are pretty limited compared to the mass.
flexagoon 2 hours ago||
Sure, but I think it's just that internet is now used by much more non—tech-savvy people, not because people are switching from having a personal homepage to social media. The ones who know how to create a personal site still usually have one. Almost every post you see on HN is from someone's personal website.
sublinear 1 hour ago||
Of the people I know in tech roles, there are far more who have no online presence at all.

Personal pages were once an option in those people's minds (i.e. get around to it later). Then it got bargained down to social media profiles. Now anything at all has become a liability and the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

I think that's what they mean.

kaon_2 2 hours ago||
Amazing to read through the list. I had no idea about Orkut. To kill an application with 300m users seems insane.

Anyone here knows why MSN was ever killed? The brand was so strong. I am sure usage was still there. You'd think Microsoft could still bring it back somehow. In a similar vein, it was never clear to me why hotmail was killed to make place for "live" mail.

disruptiveink 2 hours ago||
Killed for Skype, which was already declining by that time. Microsoft was keen on unifying their IM platforms, but failed to realise that unless the migration path is incredibly smooth, people just won't do it. And the value of any chat service is that the people you want to talk to are on there. Many people didn't bother migrating from MSN to Skype and that was the end of it.

The Skype team at the time was also run with the mindset of "developer happiness comes first, users come second", a relatively popular mindset in the 2010s, and shipped large app rewrites with missing features and usability regressions.

Of course, they eventually killed Skype too. The MSN users never went to Skype and the Skype users just progressively jumped ship to FaceTime/WhatsApp video/Google Voice to replace video calling and VoIP, respectively. By then you had a former shell of what Skype was and Microsoft figured they should just shove the remainder of their users into Teams.

Similar to the Google Talk > Hangouts > Google Chat tragedy.

sev_verso 2 hours ago||
I was still using Skype to talk with my parents when they pulled the plug on it, too. Obviously (and unlucky for Microsoft), that conversation never moved to Teams. Curious how many users they lost with that move.
blae 2 hours ago||
MiniDisc "ignored by the world" my ass, ignored by the USA you mean.
d-lowl 2 hours ago||
Not only I guess. I remember buying a minidisk instead of miniCD __by accident__ in the '00s in Russia. That was literally the only time I saw one in person.
jbjbjbjb 2 hours ago||
My parents got me one in 1999 after years of me asking. It was such a disappointment when mp3 players like iRiver came out soon after (that should have a page on the graveyard) and then iPod came out. The iRiver and similar product used flash memory too.

Also I disagree with the minidisc distribution being an issue. They were less popular but, in the U.K. at least, album releases in minidisc format were available in supermarkets as well as music and electronic retailers.

mkozak 1 hour ago||
pebble is listed there, but it's back! https://repebble.com/
michaelcampbell 1 hour ago|
The trust is dead, though. Not by all, but not by none either.
aledevv 2 hours ago||
I added 5-inch floppies and floppy disks, very very vintage.
jaspervanderee 3 hours ago||
I like this project! Would be great if you could add their logos for sentimental value.
bozdemir 3 hours ago|
added to the roadmap, ty for the suggestion.
stanislavb 2 hours ago|
Here's another Product Graveyard https://www.saashub.com/product-graveyard.

There should be an AI graveyard, too. There are so many AI projects that are dead within an year.

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