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Posted by simianwords 6 hours ago

Grok 4.3(docs.x.ai)
171 points | 231 commentspage 3
happosai 4 hours ago|
I lost the trust in them when they added the racist "what about killing of Boers in south Africa" thing to their system prompt.

No way am I going to use a model where the backing has such blatantly obvious brain washing goals.

Hugsun 3 hours ago||
It is unbelievable that this is a controversial opinion.
miroljub 4 hours ago||
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vrganj 4 hours ago|||
There is no non-bias. What you call unbiased is always just a reflection of your personal biases.

That being said, I am definitely against a model that is biased to be following the ideology of a far-right extremist.

Jtarii 4 hours ago||||
Musk bought a social media company for the specific purpose of getting Trump elected by turning it into a right wing propaganda machine. Have Anthropic/OpenAI/Google done something similar to that?
henry2023 4 hours ago|||
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alfiedotwtf 5 hours ago||
If there was any model I wouldn’t trust, it wouldn’t be the ones from China, it would be the one from Elon Musk
Cthulhu_ 4 hours ago|
Thankfully it's not an either / or, I don't trust any models. This is a healthy attitude to have because you shouldn't trust anyone on the internet either, especially when it comes to specific subjects.
benrutter 3 hours ago|||
That's definitely a good approach. Although I get a little concerned about the resources put into convincing people that models (and especially Grok) are accurate. For example, X's "fact checked by Grok" approvals, which I've unfortunately heard people reference as meaningful.

Politically motivated models can still do a lot of damage that affects me (or "have a lot of impact" depending on whether you like the politics or not) even if I don't engage with them myself.

2ndorderthought 4 hours ago|||
I don't trust this. But by not trusting it I am inherently trusting it. But by trusting it I shouldn't.
khalic 4 hours ago||
This project is a gigantic waste of resources, it’s fine tuned on politics of the CEO, was used for CSAM generation and just sucks overall
johnnyApplePRNG 3 hours ago||
The resource waste he's talking about is horrendous, read more here: https://time.com/7308925/elon-musk-memphis-ai-data-center/
servo_sausage 4 hours ago|||
I like that there are models with divergent politics; the status quo being creepy corporate left silicon valley is not healthy or pleasant to interact with.

Even with grock it's only broadening things to creepy corporate right of silicon valley.

breezybottom 2 hours ago||
Silicon Valley...left? Huh?
spiderfarmer 4 hours ago||
It’s a model made for 36% of Americans. The rest of the world can’t care less.
2ndorderthought 4 hours ago||
Considering how few Americans there are and how little of that 39% even uses technology, that's what 20 million people at a maximum?
Hugsun 4 hours ago||
That seems like a decently sized market. Maybe not for an AI lab though.
2ndorderthought 3 hours ago||
Sure it's a good market for a normal company. For a social media company it's pretty isolated and really limits the products that can come out. But their current selling points: propaganda, csam, and psychosis engagement are quite strong amongst that population.
cindyllm 3 hours ago||
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jimmypk 2 hours ago||
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unit149 4 hours ago||
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shchess 4 hours ago||
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th3b0tk1ll3r 4 hours ago||
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curtisblaine 4 hours ago|
Please avoid comments with no real substance, written just to denigrate, with a throwaway account. They make discourse unnecessarily worse.
AntiUSAbah 2 hours ago||
Please reconsider why you want to use Grok.

Musk allowed childpornography because of lulz.

Musk created a Antiwikipedia like 1984 (please read the book).

Musk did two nazi salutes in front of a MAGA publicum to get their approval.

Musk allowed grok hitler.

I have been to a concentration camp. I read and visited white rose in munich. This is not fun, not a joke, not some nonsense. The siblings Scholl were normal human beings and students in munich. They were killed for non violent resistence. This was only possible due to the slippery slope of facism and dehumaninzation of humans.

Elon Musk is a facist or at least doesn't care about anything at all. He is an igorant mf.

xAI is completly owned by him.

I will invite you to munich and my couch, i can show you a concentration camp, i can show you the memorial of white rose.

Just use another AI provider.

gigatexal 3 hours ago||
How do the grok models fare in coding challenges to say gpt 5.5 and opus 4.6/4.7?

I hate giving Elon any money. The man is a net negative to society but … if the models are objectively better then logically I must no?

simonh 3 hours ago||
Logic can't tell you what your objectives should be, only how to achieve them.
gigatexal 1 hour ago||
Fair. Anyway I’ll look at benchmarks.
gigatexal 1 hour ago||
All the downvotes are from Elon Stan’s. Think on your sins. ;-)