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Posted by XzetaU8 14 hours ago

New research suggests people can communicate and practice skills while dreaming(www.newyorker.com)
https://archive.ph/6wKhx
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richstokes 8 hours ago|
Kinda related but I used to practice guitar in my dreams. If I had been learning something I’d often dream about playing it over and over again, and even going beyond that and figuring out “solos” and melodies and stuff over the chord. Can’t be sure if it translated into any real life skill, but it felt like I was actually learning or at least strongly reinforcing what I’d been practicing.
mbrumlow 3 hours ago||
I have been saying this for years.

When I was young I somehow figured out how to control my dreams. By the time I was an adult and working in software all my dreams were always iterating over solutions to problems I had at work. And every day I would come into the office with the ability to move forward on projects with insights in leaned that night while sleeping.

Xeoncross 12 hours ago||
AI does the work during the day and we learn while sleeping. Society doesn't collapse from ignorance. We have a new movie plot gentlemen.
throwatdem12311 9 hours ago||
This is why I would smash my head against a wall trying to beat a boss in Dark Souls for an entire evening, then wake up the next day and beat them on my first or second attempt.

Very common phenomena that is discussed frequently in the souls community.

hatthew 7 hours ago||
I experience similar, but I'm pretty sure it's just rest and a fresh mind, not overnight learning/thinking. When I'm bashing my head against a wall, I'm stuck in a local optimum, and sleeping lets me reset and try something new that often works better (and I execute it better since I'm not as tired).
t-shaped 9 hours ago|||
That’s so on point. One time I was stuck on One Reborn from Bloodborne for a whole evening. While I was sleeping I figured out the optimal path to best the Chime Maidens. I woke up and beat the boss in 5 mins.

Very real phenomenon. Happened so many times

Root_Denied 4 hours ago||
Sometimes called the "cold controller" effect as well, and not necessarily requiring sleep but rather just a break from the game.
rcarmo 11 hours ago||
So I guess having dreams about recurring meetings is... honing corporate skills?
saltcured 11 hours ago||
Is the main theme that you suddenly realize you aren't wearing pants?

And if so, would you say it has improved your pants wearing performance on the job?

suprjami 11 hours ago||
It also counts as overtime, right?
gblargg 6 hours ago||
If this dream-learning thing caught on, everyone would have to work in their sleep to stay competitive.
pedalpete 8 hours ago||
Interesting comment they have towards the end about "targeted memory reactivation can disrupt sleep".

It is important to note the study they are referring to is "targeted memory reactivation with sleep disruption", there are methods of doing targeted memory reactivation without sleep disruption.

I work in neurotech/sleeptech as the founder of affectablesleep.com, and though we are mostly focused on slow-wave (deep) sleep, we have been looking into memory reactivation, lucid dreaming and other stimulations for additions.

GranPC 5 hours ago|
Sorry for the off-topic, but I was curious about Affectable so I opened the website. I saw it's very thin and light and comfortable, but I struggled to find out what "it" is and what it does for me. It's kinda buried.

I was interested enough to click through the different links in the footer. And just as I reached the purchase page, I see that it requires "an iPhone running iOS". Unsure why it requires an iPhone; and no info on a timeline for iPhone-less customers. But that immediately rules me out as a customer.

I feel like the landing page would be a lot better if it started out focusing on what it is & how it can help me.

Apologies again for the unsolicited advice. Just wanted to share my impressions in case it's helpful.

block_dagger 5 hours ago||
When I was beginning to use AI for everything, as most of us had, I would start dreaming that wall of text that had a personality sat between me and reality. For several nights I would dream this way with the wall becoming translucent and displaying text but the "real" actions (other people, scenes) was happening on the other side of the wall. I've dreamed in videogames as well. I'm not sure if I was getting any learning done, but I'm pretty sure my brain was exercising modes of thought that would push knowledge from "system 2" down into "system 1."
matthewfcarlson 10 hours ago||
I read a short novel about a technology that allowed you to have a VR like experience while dreaming. Of course, there was all the fun/perverted stuff you can think of but also it was immediately put to use as a corporate tool. Over a few years, more and more white collar jobs shifted to night shifts where you worked via dream VR. Then people were available during the day to do whatever, watch their kids, pursue hobbies, etc. In many ways- it was a very promising future.
mlboss 10 hours ago||
I don't think this will ever work. Sleep acts as a compression for our daily life. Brains takes in daily new information and compresses it based on what we already know. The stuff dreams are made off are just a variant of what happens in day life.
eichin 9 hours ago||
powernapcomic (maritza campos) is a surreal dystopian version of this (with the corporate part turned up to 99). Excellent sci-fi and very weird...
thenthenthen 11 hours ago||
Two months ago my partner recorded me speaking in my sleep. I was speaking fluent Mandarin. I always thought sleep time is used for learning (among healing etc), but now I am convinced.
detribaby 11 hours ago|
Well you’ll have to give us more. Do you speak Mandarin at all?
tsukurimashou 11 hours ago|||
spoiler, he is Chinese and only speaks Mandarin
lostlogin 6 hours ago||
But writes in English. Very rare.
BoxedEmpathy 5 hours ago||
I've met a few people who write English but can't speak it. One of them is polish and learned to type English to play online video games.
consumer451 11 hours ago|||
And, what was the partner's ability to benchmark? What is their level of familiarity with the language?

I would love to believe.

jtbayly 11 hours ago||
It was a recording. I dare you to ask for it.
consumer451 8 hours ago||
I shall not be ensnared by your schoolyard dare. You cannot manipulate me so easily. OP, however...
mahdihabibi 7 hours ago|
This has always been clear as day to me, but I just couldn’t prove it. I used to take naps right after practicing guitar because I believed it would help me learn faster! LOL
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