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Posted by XzetaU8 4 days ago

New research suggests people can communicate and practice skills while dreaming(www.newyorker.com)
https://archive.ph/6wKhx
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mahdihabibi 4 days ago|
This has always been clear as day to me, but I just couldn’t prove it. I used to take naps right after practicing guitar because I believed it would help me learn faster! LOL
andai 4 days ago||
> In perhaps the most striking example of learning during sleep, Konkoly, Paller, and several collaborators witnessed what amounted to conversations with people who were in the midst of dreams. Independent lab groups in the U.S., France, Germany, and the Netherlands asked lucid dreamers to answer yes-or-no questions and solve simple math problems. Electrodes measuring body and brain activity verified that the participants were not awake. Martin Dresler, a sleep researcher at the Donders Institute, who ran the Dutch experiments, said that they were able to verbally deliver new information to the sleeping mind—and to receive responses. Some people could remember the questions they had been asked when they woke up. “This is a form of very complex learning,” he told me.

https://xkcd.com/269/

Tossrock 4 days ago|
Also, https://dresdencodak.com/2006/10/07/summer-dream-job/
andai 4 days ago||
Buddy of mine tried lucid dreaming for years. One night, he finally had it.

Immediately, a police man shows up. "No, you're not allowed to be lucid." My friend hung his head and said "okay", and was never lucid again.

Even stranger, I later heard reports from others along similar lines.

samtheDamned 4 days ago||
Referenced Paper: https://doi.org/10.1093/nc/niaf067
drakonka 4 days ago||
Not about sleep learning but lucid dreaming in general: I have long been puzzled and disappointed that we are not pouring more research, interest, and funding into controlling the induction of lucid dreams. There are ways to learn to do it now, but they are slow and unreliable. Gadgets exist but they're fringe - there is no great lucid dreaming movement like there is with longevity, for example.

I would have thought in a society where we want a gadget or magic pill for anything and everything, our interest in this would be through the roof. You can live a whole other lifetime in a dream, either your own or of some other character or world you step into. You can replay the past see the future, countless times. Controlled lucid dreaming seems like the closest we will likely ever get to immortality. Why aren't we more bullish about facilitating it?

sysworld 3 days ago||
I think the issue is, you can't take photos or bring friends with you into your lucid dream, so you have nothing to share with others.

It's kinda a solo activity.

satvikpendem 4 days ago||
Same here, I don't understand it either. It's a powerful phenomenon and is essentially the end state of virtual reality, as you are now the god of your own universe.
tsoukase 4 days ago||
I rarely remember my dreams in the morning, only a handful times in my life. At one I was a Chinese citizen and experienced a dense feeling of being a little ant in the greatest Empire the universe and time had ever seen (China). A nothing in the whole. There are no words. Another one was an insane, out of the world sex experience. Dreams are wild.
mbrumlow 4 days ago||
I have been saying this for years.

When I was young I somehow figured out how to control my dreams. By the time I was an adult and working in software all my dreams were always iterating over solutions to problems I had at work. And every day I would come into the office with the ability to move forward on projects with insights in leaned that night while sleeping.

brisket_bronson 4 days ago||
Omelette du fromage
jboggan 4 days ago||
My wife used to think that I had terrible sleep apnea because I'd repeatedly quit breathing for a minute or two at a time and then gasp for air, but it turned out I was just dreaming about freediving for lobsters.
lazyasciiart 4 days ago|
Uh, do you freedive while awake?
addedGone 3 days ago||
Happens to me all the time, waking up with a solution (or a new problem :/) to complex software issues.
trueno 3 days ago|
last couple years i really started branching away from data engineering to software engineering. i am constantly dreaming about software sometimes it just feels like im thinking while sleeping. sometimes its mumbo jumbo but a lot of times it's legitimate cohesive architecting or coding.

honestly it's driving me crazy. i really miss just having nonsensical dreams it was refreshing.

1970-01-01 3 days ago|
I thought this was already known! Why else would we be out of touch with reality for several hours per day?? Any non-trivial task that requires focus will improve via sleep: Speaking a new language, playing the guitar, pickleball, flying a helicopter, coding, etc.
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