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Posted by jovial_cavalier 1 day ago

Windows quality update: Progress we've made since March(blogs.windows.com)
60 points | 117 commentspage 2
microtonal 5 hours ago|
Not a Windows user, have never been (since Windows 3.11). But if I were, I would think this is just PR unless they changed some fundamentals, like bringing back local user support without jumping through five hoops.
aboardRat4 1 hour ago||
Windows can ensure its quality quite easily: restore support for Windows 7.
TowerTall 4 hours ago||
By changing two settings in Windows, you can fix the worst of it.

Using a local group policy, you can change when "Preview builds and Feature updates" and "Quality Updates" become available in Windows Update.

By delaying those with 30 or 60 days, you will never have preview updates applied to your system, and feature and quality updates will have at least 1 or 2 months' worth of fixes before you get them.

start > run > gpedit.msc > Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update > Manage updates offered from Windows Update >

1) Enable "Select when preview builds and feature updates are received". Set days to 60

2) Enable "Select when quality updates are received". Set days to 30 (max value)

seebeen 2 hours ago||
Too little too late. I've already fully migrated to Fedora 43.
bsrhng 5 hours ago||
It's fascinating that one of the top features insiders are interested in is making File Explorer more dependable.
qingcharles 5 hours ago|
They took a real punch to the gut when File Pilot rolled out and showed them what their own devs should have been doing.
jiggawatts 4 hours ago|||
Took the beta for a quick spin and... wow, the speed is truly astonishing!

Windows doesn't feel slow because the kernel or the filesystem is inherently "that" slow, it feels like a sloth overdosing on heroin because nobody at Microsoft gives the slightest crap about making it even a tiny bit faster.

It's staggering how the instant you double-click a file in File Pilot you're... back in the tar pit. (The Windows image preview app just spins... and spins... while it does God-knows-what with my CPUs.)

The contrast of going from one to the other makes the quality difference glaringly obvious.

UberFly 4 hours ago|||
Directory Opus has been doing that for decades.
deburo 23 minutes ago|||
I'm sure it did, but that app looks like a Win XP-era app (not even Win7). FilePilot is fast, looks good & feels modern (support a command palette, fuzzy search, etc). The only downside is that it runs on the GPU and so running it inside a VM is a bit of a hassle.
drcongo 2 hours ago|||
Hadn't heard that name since the Amiga days and had no idea it was still around!
wewewedxfgdf 2 hours ago||
The Windows we want:

The SAME as Windows 2000 in terms of what is installed. NO TPM REQUIREMENT.

Even better: when installing Windows, there should be a "install minimal" option, and if you select it then it should be so fucking minimal - so little on there, that all you get is control panel and a way to install new software - NOTHING more.

That's your win, Microsoft. I'm 2000% certain nothing even slightly close to that will be delivered.

teekert 2 hours ago||
Yeah it’s funny how at this moment I’d pay more for less Windows.

But I’ve found my way on Linux long ago. Sure not all software is there and MS365 fully from browser has so many annoyances, but I love the OS minimalism, how clean it is.

My ideal windows in indeed win2000, but in a transparent VM so I can just do the Windows apps. I need LSW, Linux subsystem for Windows, essentially.

I live in Linux but still have some need for the Windows Runtime from time to time. If only Windows containers were at the level of the Linux ones, I’d flip the whole world up side down.

podman run ms365-full —license-key FCKGW-RHQQ2-YXRKT-8TG6W-2B7Q8

I’d pay for that. But such a system only provides value, it does not extract it. It is a 180 of the way they have been thinking for a long time now.

globalnode 1 hour ago|||
its worth trying really really hard to get windows apps running through wine before reaching for a vm imho. once you open a vm you have to deal with ... well... windows.
teekert 1 hour ago||
I did it in the past, vmware (where the desktop was transparant so it was like Windows on Linux), CrossOver office, Wine (bottles).

Recently I tried to get Windows running using quickemu but that also failed.

All just so that I don't have to experience MS365 in the browser where I will regularly click "New message" (in Outlook) and start typing but my browser interprets all characters as shortcuts (as if I held alt or something??) messing up my inbox to various degrees before I become aware, ending up with a pile op messages in "archive". I hate the daily re-logins in Teams (which does not tell you it's logged out, your messages just hang and the menu is empty). Word simply deletes my last 2 sentences from time to time (even though it assures me on every frightened ctrl-s that it's all fine!!), etc, etc.

And we're not even talking about the hoops you have to jump through when a doc is not on SharePoint/OneDrive but on a NAS.

globalnode 24 minutes ago||
sounds painful, just searched on "how can i get ms office running in linux using wine" and the results included a containerised windows vm that looks very interesting. but yes i agree, they seem to have gone to a lot of effort to make office use a billion microservices that would be a nightmare to run through wine.

edit: nvm, the docker vm thing looks really slow, id rather use libreoffice (which is quite good really). and now europe is trying to cut the umbilical you can probably expect a lot more open source productivity stuff in the near future too.

wewewedxfgdf 2 hours ago||
The minimal install should be so minimal that you feel naked, like you need to immediately start installing stuff to get anything useful done.

I do not care what you give people who don't select "minimal install" - that's their problem.

SwamyM 1 hour ago||
Anyone have a good guide to (re)install Windows without any of the bloat? Preferably using Group Policy vs registry changes.

I've seen Tiny11 referenced but haven't seen a good guide for it.

windowsrookie 1 hour ago||
Ars Technica Made a guide:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/11/what-i-do-to-clean-u...

kotaKat 1 hour ago||
Install Windows 11 Education edition (which rips all of the AI shit out mostly with sane defaults for schools). If you need the ISO, Microsoft's default Win11 ISOs have it. Use https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/ to get a good autounattend set up to rip out the extra bloat and set up a clean install. Activate with Massgrave HWID. You're done.
cmehdy 47 minutes ago|||
I'll vouch for this. I have a USB drive set up with Ventoy, which has the ability to install its TPM certs when booting from USB. It has a couple Linux ISOs and one Win11. It also has a Ventoy config tying that ISO to an autounattended XML built from that exact site.

The result is an install with no copilot/cortana/widgets, a win defender that can be disabled, no auto updates at all, a local account only, no taskbar shenanigans, properly configured explorer, some registry tweaks, runtimes pre-installed, extra drivers if needed, and QoL settings tweaked how I want them.

The OS installs itself in a few minutes with no intervention after the disk/partitioning stuff which I kept manual. It ends up being faster than the Ubuntu and CachyOs installs from the same drive. Then 2mins with massgrave post install if I haven't provided a key already.

When it is set up that way, Windows is decently fast and stable. And I have some control over it, at least whenever I need to enforce something.

SwamyM 15 minutes ago|||
Wasn't aware that there was an Edcation version but that unattended installer site seem like a great way to install, without using a bunch of random Power Shell scripts.
kotaKat 3 minutes ago||
I will disclose that it generates a lot of random Powershell scripts to do all the unattended tweaks and magic... but yes, it's still a great way to install.
itrunsdoomguy 2 hours ago||
Windows won’t be able to run Doom soon.
ciconia 6 hours ago||
Just switch to Linux people!
throwa356262 5 hours ago||
My first hand experience with Windows vs Linux this month:

A friend of mine recently bought a very expensive laptop to do some gaming. I helped him set it up and god that was a horrible experience. For example, we could not get rid of LinkedIn and other crap Microsoft wanted to force on him. Disabling copilot and removing Office required registry surgery. And the damn fans were always running because of some unknown activity in the background, maybe Microsoft is moving into bitcoin mining business?

He eventually got fed up, installed Ubuntu 26.04 as an experiment and a week later still seems to enjoy the experience. Games run fine on steam and his laptop finally feels like his own.

Most surprisingly, Linux worked fine out of the box. Windows 11 on the other hand needed a bunch of PowerShell and registry hacks to be copy pasted from various sources before it was even remotely usable. It's funny how it felt as if Windows was the OS for nerds with too much free time on their hands while Ubuntu was created for ordinary people. And my god, Ubuntu feels so much more fluid on the same hardware. The difference is *huge*.

mkayokay 5 hours ago|||
Gaming on Linux works pretty good now. Setup is easy thanks to Steam and other launchers (e.g. heroiclauncher).
rincebrain 4 hours ago||||
Not the main focus but, FYI, a number of pieces of hardware will default to full tilt fans unless you have their tooling running to manage things.

NVIDIA GPUs were infamous for doing this with nouveau on less ideally supported cards, for example.

hiq 4 hours ago||
But it's the kind of things you'd expect Windows to take care of automatically, or in the worst case, to prompt the users to install on first boot, especially if Linux (with overall less driver support from manufacturers).

And with a preinstalled Windows (tuned to the laptop) this behavior should not be observed at all.

lawn 1 hour ago|||
I installed CachyOS for my 8-year old son and his desktop instead of Windows.

It's been wonderful.

pliny 5 hours ago|||
I got a new computer a couple weeks ago, with a 5070, and installed ubuntu on it and it was incredibly slow. I looked online and found some claim that 24.04 has some incompatability with nvidia, tried installing a bunch of different driver versions and nothing helped, tried turning everything off in gnome tweaks and still slow, tried installing 26.04 and 22.04 but the installer hangs forever in both, tried linux mint 24.04 still slow, gave up and installed windows with WSL :/
barrkel 4 hours ago|||
What was slow?

I'm running Ubuntu on a 9950x3d and 5090 and it is not slow. Games in Steam with Proton are buttery smooth.

One hiccup was I had to disable variable refresh rate because moving the cursor didn't "count" as a reason to update the screen, so moving the cursor on its own (rather than e.g. moving a window) looked choppy.

But a choppy mouse cursor isn't "slow".

Tip: if you have a performance problem, run Claude Code (or an AI agent of your choice) and ask it to investigate.

pliny 3 hours ago||
>What was slow?

Everything, huge input delay in every interaction, clicking on anything, opening menus, typing, tabbing between windows, everything had 1-2s of delay.

>disable variable refresh rate

I think I tried this but dont recall, there were a few things related to monitor refresh I tried that probably included this

donalhunt 1 hour ago||
In case it helps I have the same experience on Windows right now. :_(
lawn 1 hour ago||||
Try CachyOS instead. Ubuntu is not great.
fsflover 4 hours ago|||
If you wanted to run Ubuntu from the beginning, it would be better to search for a computer designed for it, not for Windows.
alkonaut 1 hour ago||
This is the one thing I want from an OS: I want it to work for the hardware I have, and the hardware I get tomorrow.

Without having to google whether it will, or what hardware to buy.

Without having to google some workaround or configure anything to get the most of it.

jeltz 46 minutes ago|||
Then your only option is Apple. The same happens with Windows too.
fsflover 1 hour ago|||
Your expectations are not reasonable. Imagine complaining about MacOS not working on a Windows laptop or vice versa.

You should buy preinstalled the OS you want instead.

alkonaut 1 hour ago||
Mac chose another path. You buy a pc and OS and the same vendor makes both. You can’t choose but at least you also never need to wonder whether your laptop and OS work together.

Microsoft took a more difficult path. They have close contact with OEMs, run certification programs etc. A massive apparatus to make it somewhat likely that hardware will ”just work”.

Both of these are valid models. I’d be happy to use either. I’m not very keen on doing this work myself though. I can buy a PC with Ubuntu but then it’s still hit and miss if I buy something new for it. There is no canonical store selling canonical gear like the Apple Store

advael 5 hours ago|||
Hard to overstate the sunk-costness of it all
jofzar 5 hours ago||
Except I can't because of the games I play?
Accacin 4 hours ago|||
This is a choice for you! I'm a pretty heavy PC gamer and whilst I've run Linux since I was in college (UK college, not US) I've always had a Windows install for gaming.

A few years ago, I finally decided I'd had it with Windows and their crap and uninstalled it. If I game doesn't run on Linux, I don't play it. Simple as that.

I'm lucky in that a majority of games I play run fine on Linux, the only real game I'd love to play is Vermintide 2. My friends also run a mix of Linux and Windows and so we're fairly fine skipping games as a group if we can't play on Linux.

globalnode 1 hour ago||
>If I game doesn't run on Linux, I don't play it. Simple as that.

yes ive reached that point too.

Accacin 1 hour ago||
Especially because technically games run pretty amazing on Linux. The issue is always the anti-cheat that they decided to implement.

There's at least one anti-cheat that "works" on Linux so they have options.

amlib 4 hours ago|||
That is a problem of any operating system switch, you need to figure out what software is compatible or weather there are suitable replacements. It's the same even if you switch between iOS and Android.

That said, Linux used to be a tough cookie because there were so little support for software people wanted to run and the alternatives didn't do it any favours, plus the barrage of problems you used to get installing it on a random machine was discouraging, at best. Nowadays your chances of running it well on a random machine is pretty damn good and getting the software you need is lot more feasible. But don't go YOLOing a linux install, see if meets your use cases. There is nothing wrong with waiting until it's good enough.

technothrasher 1 hour ago||
I'm just down to Creative Cloud now. It's the only thing I still need Windows for. Everything else runs on Linux or there is a suitable alternative. So I've got several Debian machines running at home and at work, and one Windows machine that I boot only for photo editing.
mips_avatar 4 hours ago|
Microsoft is trying to sell things like extended servicing agreements. They purposefully make Windows worse so they can sell you solutions to fix it. They purposefully keep it insecure so you need their updates. It’s about taking the customers hostage.
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