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Posted by andsoitis 15 hours ago

Neanderthals ran 'fat factories' 125,000 years ago (2025)(www.universiteitleiden.nl)
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shevy-java 2 hours ago||
That also must mean that Neanderthals must have been very clever, early on. We already knew they were clever, but 125.000 years ago is really pushing that further. Now the main question is still why and how they went extinct. We have some pieces of the puzzles (mitochondrial DNA found in human mitochondrial DNA) but not a complete picture yet (or, somewhat more complete; we can obviously never reconstruct all pieces of the puzzle).
Qem 21 minutes ago|
Perhaps they were very smart, but also they were all autistic[1], so they had poor social skills and had a hard time coordinating large groups against encroaching H. Sapiens Sapiens tribes.

[1] https://communities.springernature.com/posts/neanderthal-dna...

myspeed 8 hours ago||
I like the explanation of Neil Tyson on Neanderthal's research.
thehappypm 8 hours ago|
Link?
nephihaha 3 hours ago||
Some would argue they still do. ;)
ewy1 13 hours ago||
university of leiden is a great institution and i am blessed for having studied there despite dropping out!
paulgerhardt 9 hours ago||
Pretty clever solution to rabbit starvation.
multjoy 4 hours ago|
They were hunting elephants. It's quite clear that they weren't being forced to subsist on small herbivores.
SideburnsOfDoom 2 hours ago||
"rabbit starvation" refers to a diet of mostly lean protein, deficient in fat. So much so that it results in malnutrition.

Eating nothing but rabbits is one way to get it, but is not really about "subsisting on small herbivores". It's the fact that the meat is very lean, not fatty. Apparently "mal de caribou" is the same thing, and Caribou / Reindeer are not small.

sandworm101 8 hours ago||
Question: why do we know this was about food? Bones are boiled for other reasons. Boiling down bones is how you make basic glue. Could this have been something more industrial, the creation of a useful ingredient for weapon making?
fnordpiglet 8 hours ago||
Fat is also very very important for soap.
beezlewax 7 hours ago||
Soup
deafpolygon 5 hours ago||
Maybe when megafauna disappeared, so too the Neanderthals because their survival strategy was too dependent on them.
xp84 9 hours ago||
> the tip of the proverbial ice-berg of Neanderthal impact on herbivore populations, especially on slowly-reproducing taxa, could have been substantial during the Last Interglacial.’

translation: the Neanderthals probably completely wiped out a ton of the species of big animals that once existed in these regions.

Homo sapiens isn’t the only hominid to do that…

snthpy 5 hours ago||
Yeah like the rhinos and elephants that I didn't know you used to get in that area. Maybe they were too efficient and that's what limited their proliferation when they hit resource limits?
devilbunny 7 hours ago||
Neanderthals were homo sapiens.
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