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Posted by richardboegli 16 hours ago

This Month in Ladybird – April 2026(ladybird.org)
358 points | 80 commentspage 2
imagetic 15 hours ago|
Can’t ship it soon enough.
jurschreuder 4 hours ago||
Too bad LadyBird is being translated to LLM generated Rust.

It's nice that Rust is so beginner friendly but it would be nicer to have a pure C++ browser for the more experienced developers, to use as a basis for their projects like Chromium is used.

teruakohatu 3 hours ago||
If LLMs allow them to speedrun to an alternative mainstream browser, then full speed ahead.

A third runner in this space would make the browser market a lot healthier than the current chrome/webkit and Firefox duopoly.

latexr 3 hours ago|||
I’d rather have a good browser which took its time to get things right than a speed run one.

Too much software is written like that, and the result is that most things are shit. What are we in such a hurry for? To get more time to work more? Fucking chill. Do things slowly and right.

As a side thought, speed running seems like the wrong analogy for software. Speed runners in games are people who spend a ton of time doing the exact same steps over and over to find tiny optimisations and develop muscle memory to do something repeatable. They take the time to do it well. Being a good speed runner means embracing slow progress. It’s the antithesis of software, where rushing to get it out also means you barely look at it. You do it fast but seldom right.

TehCorwiz 21 minutes ago||
What are your thoughts on the current code quality? Have you had a chance to review it?
isametry 1 hour ago|||
>chrome/webkit and Firefox duopoly

Blink (Chrome) is not WebKit. If anything, the duopoly is Blink and WebKit at places 1 and 2 respectively.

Firefox is at around 3% market share. There’s no “-poly” to Gecko at all.

SkiFire13 3 hours ago|||
Why would yet another C++ browser be better than one written in a different language (this time Rust, but Zig would be cool too)?
nasso_dev 3 hours ago|||
are you saying c++ can be used as a basis for other projects whereas rust cannot? ...why?
porridgeraisin 3 hours ago||
I don't really care for the language. But why is it following the GTK UI language ffs. Every gtk only gets worse.
SkiFire13 3 hours ago||
> Ladybird has a new Linux frontend built on GTK4 and libadwaita, sitting alongside the existing Qt frontend

This is in addition to the already existing Qt frontend.

einpoklum 14 hours ago||
> Human Rights Foundation ... “AI for Individual Rights” program

That sounds quite dodgy. Ladybird doesn't have AI, why would such a program support its development?

But even before that: "Human Rights Foundation" sounds like "The Human League" which George makes up in Seinfeld as a fake charity. And promoting AI as a "human right" is quite suspicious. If I had to, I might be that this is something backed by one of the corporations burning through Billions of dollars and Gigawatt-hours on LLMs.

Looking at their annual report summaries and their huge staff, my guess slants a bit towards either bodies like the CIA or some ideologically-motivated billionaires (e.g. talk about the "dictator Maduro", focus on Iran etc.)

technothrasher 14 hours ago||
> "The Human League" which George makes up in Seinfeld as a fake charity

It was actually The Human Fund. The Human League is an English pop band, most successful in the 1980s with their hit single "Don't You Want Me".

johnmaguire 7 hours ago|||
If you're interested in the program, you can find more details here: https://hrf.org/program/ai-for-individual-rights/ai-for-indi...

They offer grants for "Using AI tools and platforms to more efficiently build movements and resist oppression" in addition to many other things.

mold_aid 40 minutes ago|||
It is. Ex-FIRE guy's idea. Avoiding Ladybird like the plague, personally.
vondur 12 hours ago|||
Ha I immediately thought of the Human Fund from Seinfeld. Their fake slogan “money for humans”
snvzz 2 hours ago|||
From the FAQ in the ladybird front page.

>All sponsorships are in the form of unrestricted donations. Board seats and other forms of influence are not for sale.

i.e. donations explicitly do not buy any say in the project.

NicuCalcea 13 hours ago|||
There's quite a big difference between "AI for individual rights" and "AI as a human right".
jordand 6 hours ago||
Ladybird has a close relationship with FUTO which is a pretty oddly behaved private for-profit company ran by a bored multi-millionaire.

https://drewdevault.com/blog/Whats-up-with-FUTO/

notenlish 4 hours ago||
Didn't realize FUTO was connected to Eron Wolf, which connects to Curtis Yarvin, which connects to Palantir.

Great...

AYHAM_MEZHER1 3 hours ago||
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qzgrid37 2 hours ago||
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KingMob 4 hours ago||
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djhn 4 hours ago|
Evidence? Harsh accusation.
lukan 3 hours ago||
No evidence for that. What Kling did say was white developers were being discriminated in the bay area. Small debate and links at the last ladybird post:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47899424

cynicalsecurity 13 hours ago||
Interesting, I've checked the LinkedIn link of Jakub Stęplowski, a software developer proudly presenting himself as "from Poland" - 10 years of working outside of Poland in Italy and Switzerland. Yep, that checks out. I was wondering where he could have gotten $1,000 to generously burn on this project as a sponsor, with Polish salaries.

Nothing bad about it, of course. It's just it's long time overdue to move to Switzerland as well, I see.

qingcharles 12 hours ago|
There was a developer who I worked with at a mortgage company who had moved to the UK from Czech Republic. He would sit at his desk playing games on his phone all day and had outsourced his entire job to his friend back home for 25% of his UK salary.
shevy-java 5 hours ago|
> It’s inspired by GNOME Web (Epiphany)

So basically, it will be useless. How many use epiphany please? That thing has been so extremely ineffective. It's like 1999 (not that everything was bad in 1999).

> follows GNOME’s design guidelines: no menubar, a hamburger menu

Oh. my. god.

So Ladybird worships uselessness now. Also, GTK progressively gets worse and with GTK5 they will (try to) kill of xorg-server too. Some people disagree with that - https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver and https://git.devuan.org/Daemonratte/gtk2-ng; I get it that there are not that many folks using that, but the point is that the GNOME corporate mindset has a tiny bit of competition. Perhaps that seed of competition grows over time until the corporate gnomeys have to change course (won't happen, as they are paid to abolish what is "old", but more competition is good, if only to try to "reason" with mr. ebassi and other hardcore gnomeys; sadly KDE also goes that way with wayland-only, thanks to anti Robin Hood Nate and his donation-pester daemon. Oldschool KDE devs didn't waylay people for money, now it is "pay or get nagged", thanks to Natey Nate).

We kind of need competition in the browser landscape, so in some ways having Ladybird is good. I don't really have much hope that ladybird will be able to challenge the evil Google empire though. But perhaps more people realise that Google controlling so much of the www-ecosystem (again, just look at how they nerfed google search in the last years) is a huge problem.

monax 1 hour ago|
I like the approach of ladybird to provides as many native chrome as possible it gives peoples choice and let the browser feel native in whatever DE they choose to use :)