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Posted by teleforce 5/3/2026

Mercedes-Benz commits to bringing back physical buttons(www.drive.com.au)
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philjohn 5/3/2026|
This was one of the reasons why, when looking for an EV, I went with the Kia EV6.

All of the buttons on the steering wheel are physical buttons, the heated seats, steering wheel heater etc. all physical buttons.

The only blip is the capacitive buttons that are dual use for climate control or media control (you press a button to switch between the two modes) but even that's preferable to having to hunt in a touchscreen interface to set the AC when trying to keep your eyes on the road - especially with dials to change the temperature/change the volume.

mjcarden 5/4/2026|
I think that the EV6 User Interface is pretty spot on, including things like side mirrors complemented by cameras that activate when you indicate, a nice HUD and real buttons for most things. If ONLY I didn't have to manually deactivate lane keep warning alerts EVERY time I start the car, it'd be nudging perfect.
rsync 5/3/2026||
The questions are not "are touchscreens performant" or "are touchscreens dangerous" ... we already knew the answers to those questions and there was no reason to run this multiple model generations experiment.

The question is: who was in charge of these design decisions and what kind of respect and esteem did these people command as leaders at these large companies ?

A followup question: what professional consequences accompany terrible design decisions in an arena where such decisions are life threatening ?

Beijinger 5/3/2026||
VW has commited already. Here a preview from the newest model: https://ibb.co/dYYMFWG
mihaelm 5/3/2026||
I always wanted my car to feel like a plane pilot cabin.
Beijinger 5/3/2026||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuODGZ30vsc
pokstad 5/3/2026||
Needs more buttons
dzhiurgis 5/3/2026||
Calculator on the left, dialpad on the right.
a96 5/4/2026||
Funnily, an old dialpad like dumb phones used to have would be a stellar text entry system for a navigator. Can type pretty fast without looking at the pad or a screen with a little practice. Unlike common touch screens where typing makes you want to murder someone even if you're warm and have all the time in the world.
danans 5/4/2026||
I personally find Chevy's recent infotainment control center great (Equinox/Blazer, maybe others too). Physical buttons with lots of travel (almost feel like an old IBM keyboard) for HVAC essentials, knobs for temperature and volume, and a big screen.

They have struck a really good balance between traditional interfaces and the benefits of screens.

amelius 5/3/2026||
Laudable. But I'd rather read about how they plan to fight Chinese EVs.
baq 5/3/2026||
Lobbying probably since no one can on manufacturing
adrr 5/3/2026||
Is it manufacturing? Tesla and Mercedes have factories in china including partnerships with chinese manufactures. Or is it the design of the car? Chinese companies shelled huge sums of money to hire the best car designers from Europe.

Don't let your competition hire away your top talent.

manoDev 5/3/2026|||
Fight? This year, the Chinese Geely turned the largest shareholder of Daimler (MB). They own Volvo as well.
greenavocado 5/3/2026|||
> how they plan to fight Chinese EVs.

Legislatively

cbg0 5/3/2026|||
The same way they've fought cheaper ICE brands: delivering higher quality materials, a fancy badge and a great driving experience. Currently the Chinese EVs are cheap, but far from Merc levels of refinement.
aenis 5/3/2026|||
I really don't know about that. Mercedes used to mean high, tactile, audible mechanical quality. You'd hear it while closing the doors, you'd see it when looking at perfectly assembled dash, you'd hear it while driving and you'd be happy with it when clocking 500k miles with just regular maintenance. I remember those cars - I think the quality started tanking around late 1990s.

Right now its just ok. My friends S class has visibly mis-aligned buttons (a 200k car). My other friends electric S-class bean-thingy has squeaking doors (a 2 year old, 120k-when-new car) and feels surprisingly cheap to touch and drive. Sure, small sample and all of that but I don't think those are exceptions.

I only drove one Chinese car, and it was just a normal experience - what I'd expect from a volvo, bmw, or audi. Good UI on the infotainment, was below average annoying. No big difference vs. a merc. For sure not a qualitative difference in levels of refinement.

cbg0 5/3/2026||
While I am also a fan of having knobs and switches with that nice mechanical quality, I think we're not really part of a majority. YoY sales dropped "only" 9% for Mercedes passenger cars, so people are not that bothered by the lack of knobs.
satvikpendem 5/3/2026|||
Are you sure about that last sentence? Plenty of Chinese EVs are as refined as luxury brands, such as seen here: https://youtu.be/xiFmuoBIyjQ
SpicyLemonZest 5/3/2026||
I'd love to have some of these cars in my local market, but at 3:15 this guy explicitly makes the comparison and says they're not up to Mercedes-Benz level.
amelius 5/3/2026||
If you watch the entire video you see that this remark is just a minor nitpick on one of the dozens of cars in that video. They could very easily replace that piece of plastic wood by real wood to fix it.
SpicyLemonZest 5/3/2026||
The fact that it'd be easy to replace strengthens the negative signal. If they're cutting corners in a highly visible portion of the car which would have required no additional engineering to do right, they're probably cutting more corners in ways that are harder or impossible to see. No review video will reveal, for example, whether they used a poor quality adhesive or the button labels show visible wear within months.
amelius 5/3/2026||
If you review 10 cars and 1 turns out to make a questionable choice for some minor aspect, then suddenly the car is bad, and not only that, all of them are bad? Sorry but if the German car industry thinks like this it is just grasping at straws.
markus_zhang 5/3/2026|||
How much revenue of German cars comes from China? Maybe they can hike the import tax.
cf100clunk 5/3/2026|||
> how they plan to fight Chinese EVs.

Mercedes-Benz?

ginkgotree 5/3/2026||
Yep.
2143 5/3/2026||
Though I don’t own one, I’m fortunate enough to occasionally be able to drive around a “Benz”. It’s my dad’s. Over here we prefer saying “Benz” rather than “Mercedes”.

It’s a W212 E-Class, bought new just a few months before the all new generation hit the market.

It has no touchscreen. But the UI/UX is terrible anyway. My dad still has no idea how to bring up the tire pressure monitoring screen, for example. Using the buttons to navigate a myriad of menus is not exactly straightforward.

The physical user manual book that came with the car has limited information and recommends viewing the user manual through the screen. The screen is not a touchscreen. There’s a knob in between the seats to navigate the system. Very terrible experience.

On the other hand, a Honda economy car that I used to have had the most straightforward physical controls imaginable.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, eliminating touchscreen by itself will not necessarily make anything easier, especially if the car itself is complex.

tomwheeler 5/3/2026||
I also own a W212 E-Class, which I purchased used a few years ago specifically because it's the ideal balance of features I care about (e.g., heated seats and the ability to play MP3 files) without most of the ones I hate (touchscreens and subscription services).

Despite being nearly a decade old at the time of purchase, it was in nearly perfect condition, well-maintained, had low mileage, and had already faced most of the depreciation it ever would.

jcgrillo 5/4/2026||
The enshittification began even before that. My W210 is a fully computerized, fly-by-wire machine as well. While the user interface is nominally simpler than your W212, the computer systems are still quite user hostile. In particular, anything service related. Servicing the car without Mercedes-Benz's proprietary Star Diagnostic System is an exercise in frustration.

Computers make cars worse. Full stop. I really miss my 1984 W123 wagon. That was an excellent car. It had no software in it.

eurekin 5/3/2026||
Never understood any appeal of a screen inside a car:

1. Reflections make you tilt, just to make some pesky highlights go away. Even if they are angled properly, there's always something (like a sun reflected by a watche's face) what causes nuissance at any angle

2. Car can go from a tunnel to a sunny valley in few seconds. That's 5 to 8 stops of dynamic range difference, that a human eye is easily designed to handle. Auto adjusting screen brigtness is never as bright as necessary in sunny conditions. Even if it were, it would be a significant battery drain and an element, that heats the cars interior already unnecessarily.

3. You don't have pure blacks in many of them, so that annoying halo at the corner of the eye is often present. You can solve it with an OLED, but those are even worse in bright daylight

4. All of the usually mentioned tactile feedback facts - you can reach with your hand to a AC knob, feel it's current set by finding the bulge with a finger and gently turn exactly how you want them. Zero lag, no eye contact necessary at all (keep that on the road!), instant feedback. Nothing that any screen can ever give.

5. Biggest gripe of all - modality. I think that there were some high ranking studies done early in design exactly against this type of input for high risk applications. Modality is the biggest enemy of discoverability and throws extra delays into otherwise instant input.

6. If you use a LCD variant, they interact with sunglasses polarity filter and, at some orientations, can be blocked altogeter. As you often use sunglasses exactly, because you want to see the road the best, it's contrary to the main objective of the control again.

7. Refocusing. If you can use a tactile control, with a good feedback, you're freeing your eyes from the need to adjust it's lens to focus from far to near to far again. Not many people are aware, that this is even happening, and can lead to overestimating your ability to keep engaged attention on the road.

I'd pay extra for a zero screen variant in a jiffy. Had I ever need to use a screen, I would've put my phone in a holder instead.

yoyohello13 5/3/2026||
This is the main reason I haven’t bought a new car since 2005. I refuse to get anything with “smart features” or “infotainment” so I’m pretty much stuck until my current car dies. Then I’ll be forced to get something new, hopefully someone will manufacture a car with a sane UI with minimal features by then.
r0fl 5/3/2026|||
To expand on #4

WINTER AND GLOVES!

Yes it’s a first world proven that I have to take gloves off to turn on my heated seats but buttons made sure stupid problems like this never happened in the first place

eurekin 5/3/2026|||
Touchscreens can also leave fingerprints and those will catch light at any angle and reduce effective contrast
jval43 5/3/2026||||
Counterpoint: the touchscreen in my car DOES work with gloves. Of course the knobs do too.

The screen is some different tech and not quite as responsive as an iPhone screen and does not do multitouch, but otherwise works fine.

satvikpendem 5/3/2026||
What car do you have? Usually lower end cars have resistive touchscreens which yours sounds like an example of, but higher end ones have capacitive touchscreens and those don't generally work with gloves, but of course gloves that work with capacitive touchscreens exist and have for many years now.
satvikpendem 5/3/2026|||
There are gloves that work with capacitive touchscreens and have existed for 20 years now ever since the iPhone came out.
jcgrillo 5/4/2026||
Those kind of gloves are too thin to be of any use when it's -10°F out (early mornings are frequently at least this cold in my area). In the winter I'm normally wearing thick leather gloves treated with Sno Seal (a waxy, oily substance derived from beeswax) with wool liner gloves. Even if I could prevent them leaving a residue on any screen they touch, and even if they had some substance in them (that wouldn't wear off) that made them work with a capacitive screen, the reduced finger dexterity from all that material would make actually using that screen very difficult. Practically, what I actually have to do to use a touchscreen is take the gloves off.
seanmcdirmid 5/3/2026|||
My screen goes into dark mode as soon as I hit a tunnel so in practice it isn’t an issue. I mostly don’t notice anymore, but I had my eyeglasses prescription redone and I can’t see the screen very well anymore while driving. Will need progressive driving glasses I guess.

Note if you give up a screen they aren’t going to replace it with analog controls. It’s just too expensive, instead you’ll get something that turns to control your AC, but it’s really converted to a digital signal immediately and it’s physical rotation won’t be synchronized with the state of your AC like they were in the old days. I also really hate capacitive buttons which are worse than unsynced dials and screens, it’s like a touch screen with a fixed function.

eurekin 5/3/2026||
Yes, my goes either-or quite abruptly and, while that's not really annoying, I notice it doing way too often, than I'd like to. It shouldn't be done in a binary fashion as well.
seanmcdirmid 5/3/2026||
I really don’t notice because it happens with the light change of entering a tunnel anyways. Since I’m in Seattle, it happens often, so maybe I just got used to it.
randusername 5/4/2026||
> you can reach with your hand to a AC knob, feel it's current set by finding the bulge with a finger and gently turn exactly how you want them. Zero lag, no eye contact necessary at all (keep that on the road!), instant feedback.

I really hate it when I go to tap some touchscreen button, there is a bump in the road, and I fat-finger something unintentional. But it happens every time I drive, turning routine interactions into safety threats as I must look at the screen to determine what went wrong and how to fix it.

jcgrillo 5/4/2026||
> "If you want to connect to the customer, you’ve got to find a way to translate this digital experience from your phone to the customer."

Absolute brain rot. The customer already has a phone. They don't need your screen, they already have one.

rootusrootus 5/4/2026||
There is a happy medium somewhere. I've seen cars with a hundred buttons, and that is just as big a disaster as a touchscreen. A good solution would be hybrid -- the things you use regularly while driving should be tactile buttons and knobs that you can hopefully recognize without having to look at them. There should be a very limited number of these controls; radio & climate being the obvious ones. The rest of the customizable features and such can be in a touchscreen and then only accessible when parked.
pachico 5/4/2026|
I must say this, and the absence of piano black, were some key determining factors for me to buy the new Hyundai Kona (of course, maybe not the most important ones, but decisive nonetheless).
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