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Posted by dryadin 6 days ago

New statue in London, attributed to Banksy, of a suited man, blinded by a flag(www.smithsonianmag.com)
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slackfan 5 days ago|
Banksy is very much regime art.
kadomony 4 days ago||
The message is too smart for the people it's directed at.
seydor 6 days ago||
Let's just accept that UK art follows the general trajectory of the kingdom
bigyabai 6 days ago|
The rise of blind nationalism is a global trend, if I'm not mistaken.
nickdothutton 6 days ago||
Remember kids. Don't believe in anything. Don't join anything. Don't give even a small part of yourself up to anything. Don't be part of anything bigger than yourself.
wartywhoa23 6 days ago||
Don't be part of anything bigger than yourself that treats you as expendable human oil.
lucketone 6 days ago||
Stop and reflect for a moment. Then continue as usual (quite likely)
wartywhoa23 6 days ago||
I had to check your other comments and now I get it that you still regard flags as having some sacred meaning in the great national past, but for me they always were about gathering as much human expendables underneath.

Sure, they might have had generated enough sacred reverence, those bloodbaths of past.

lucketone 6 days ago||
> you still regard flags as having some sacred meaning

I would like to disagree on this point.

wartywhoa23 5 days ago||
Sorry if I got you wrong!
cindyllm 5 days ago||
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BLKNSLVR 6 days ago|||
You forgot to add:

... that blinds you to any alternative; that indoctrinates distrust in different perspectives; that elevates the humanity of fellow believers above others.

bdangubic 6 days ago|||
much more sound advice than you think…
drcongo 6 days ago||
This statue might be the best thing he's ever done. I love it.
tim333 5 days ago||
I think it's cool. I'm pretty sure it's got more press coverage than his prior things.
kakacik 6 days ago|||
very current, elegant yet simple to appreciate - everybody can find some reference there
nephihaha 6 days ago||
Is it? The flag is black, so could be a variety of things, not necessarily even a national flag. Just a flag in a march. (Anarchism uses a black flag.)
celticninja 6 days ago|||
The guy is walking off a cliff and he is blinded by the flag. I assume it is a commentary on Brexit. It is just short of a decade since that vote. Nationalism blinded people and they did something stupid. Not dissimilar to what is going on in the US too.
TFNA 6 days ago|||
> I assume it is a commentary on Brexit.

The Brexit vote was a decade ago and though many mourn the outcome, it’s a bit late to be erecting artwork about it. References to being blinded by a flag now are probably about the particular far-right organizing of the last year or so that employs the English and UK flags in a very particular way. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Raise_the_Colours

n1b0m 6 days ago||||
More likely a commentary on the flying of flags. Since late 2025 and throughout 2026, the UK has seen a surge in flags (the Union Jack and St George’s Cross) being tied to lampposts, bridges, and roundabouts.

This campaign, which has been highly visible on social media and in physical neighborhoods, claims to promote patriotism. However, it has been deeply polarising, with critics and anti-racism groups arguing it is being used by far-right groups to mark territory and intimidate immigrant communities.

celticninja 6 days ago|||
This feels ai generated, was it?
celticninja 6 days ago||
This is a weird one, some of the posts are obviously a human, some are a mix and some are AI entirely. Maybe I just don't understand the point in posting AI generated content at all in this scenario.
nephihaha 6 days ago|||
It probably does means that, but by having a black/blank flag, he has left it open to many other interpretations he never intended.
SideburnsOfDoom 6 days ago|||
> I assume it is a commentary on Brexit.

I feel more that it is a commentary on "blind nationalism" of which Brexit is one example, but not the only one, or the most recent. Brexit may be "over" now, but the mindset is still very much with us in the UK and elsewhere. In other words, any successful art relates to more than one specific situation, and allows more than one reading.

nephihaha 5 days ago||
It probably is partly about Brexit. (I voted Remain by the way!!!) But he has made the blank flag so general that it could be interpreted to be so many other things like a NATO flag, an Esperanto flag, the flag of Essex or an autism pride flag.
rapidaneurism 6 days ago||||
And how is blindly following a flag differ between a national flag and an ideology flag?
nephihaha 5 days ago||
Depends on which ideology.
kelnos 6 days ago|||
To me, the blank (not black) nature of the flag is the point: it's about being blinded by any ideology, even one that the artist or beholder might agree with.
nephihaha 5 days ago||
He has made his point so general, that I think it undermines it. It could just as easily be an Esperanto or a CND flag (although we know it won't be either.)
blks 6 days ago||
Kind of shallow “makes you think huh” variety.
varispeed 6 days ago||
It's kind of cheap. Obviously saying "Reform bad." without addressing why so many people think it's not bad. Banksy forgets that humans are humans and do human things.
nielsbot 6 days ago|
My takeaway is "blind nationalism is idiotic and self defeating", but I'm not British. Is that about Reform (the party)?
varispeed 6 days ago||
Yes, sort of anti-"illegal"-immigrant parties are a hot topic in the UK.

But this is kind of "water is wet" message.

slopinthebag 6 days ago||
I doubt Banksy is a single person fwiw.
phainopepla2 6 days ago||
He is, but like most artists at his level the work and execution is primarily produced by others. He's a brand manager at this point.
delichon 6 days ago|||
He's also Satoshi.
bdangubic 6 days ago||
and Elvis
tim333 5 days ago|||
He's Robin Gunningham but probably has freinds.
sudb 6 days ago||
There's most definitely many people involved in Banksy's art - but consensus seems to be forming that it's a man named Robin Gunningham [1].

1. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/global-a...

xyzelement 6 days ago||
It took me a minute to figure out why I think it's lame.

I suspect that Banksy and his fans are sure that it's "the other" Britons that are blinded, it's not a self-reflection prompt for them. Maybe I am wrong.

Maybe a more powerful piece of art would have that self reflection effect across the board. As is it feels about as nuanced as "fuck trump" and similar. If you already agree you already agree, if not then you just think it's stupid. So ultimately feels like impotent art unless I am totally misunderstanding.

lschueller 6 days ago||
So many people connect this to political topics... For me this is the genius thing about the statue. Seems to be, that quite a lot people are so wrapped up in political debates and political positions, that it has to have political meaning. Maybe this statue is the exact opposit thing of a political message.
tim333 5 days ago|||
>about as nuanced as "fuck trump"

the fact that it has many different interpretations in this thread suggest it's more nuanced than that. Though it's not some super subtle thing you have to be an art expert to understand, I'll give you.

ninjagoo 6 days ago|||
> It took me a minute to figure out why I think it's lame.

> Maybe a more powerful piece of art would have that self reflection effect across the board. As is it feels about as nuanced as "fuck trump" and similar. If you already agree you already agree, if not then you just think it's stupid.

So close. Based on your own statement, it appears that you disagree with the proposed thesis by this piece of art.

> So ultimately feels like impotent art unless I am totally misunderstanding.

Maybe you should re-examine why you think it is stupid/lame. Is it because it calls you out and you don't like that feeling?

xyzelement 6 days ago||
"calls me out"?
ninjagoo 6 days ago||
> "calls me out"?

i.e., as a member of the group of people represented by the statue?

lucketone 6 days ago|||
Is it that important to decode what author thought when he was making it?

What if the design was made by generative model, does the statue become more or less valuable?

LightBug1 6 days ago|||
I don't think it's impotent at all.

I think you're wildly overestimating the general population's capacity for nuance.

Particularly in a world where nuance goes the same way as wood logs near a fire place.

delusional 6 days ago|||
Yet us talking about it just prompted me to consider how that applies to my life, so something good came of it :)
fylo 6 days ago||
Are you trying to be ironic?
contingencies 6 days ago|
This made me think of my favorite quote attributed to Einstein:

Nationalismus ist eine Kinderkrankheit. Er ist die Masern der Menschheit.

"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

... quote via https://github.com/globalcitizen/taoup

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