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Posted by jdgr 13 hours ago

The 'Hidden' Costs of Great Abstractions(jdgr.net)
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dragochat 6 hours ago|
> I have spent months adjusting my resume

just share the damn thing, someone may have something for you ;)

...I've kind of rarely seen these ppl complaining about work actually sharing their resume or a condensed description of their skills, knowledge and experience

dragochat 6 hours ago|
ok, f googled it and found it: ~"entry-level/junior sysadmin and cyber"

so, a path could be picked from what you know:

1. devops/sre - really hard to get above entry-level without real experience and you _will_ be competing head on with AI ...ouch

2. cyber - same with whitehat as with devops/sre ...basically go full red-team / blackhat / offesinve for a while, the get certs and portofilio, then job in "real cyber" ...BUT ppl that do this tend to have a "very specially broken brain", so if you haven't done this already you're probably not one of them [probably for the best]

...but they're probably all bad, so better DO SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY:

...gtfo of software, you're likely not gonna become an "agents hearder" with skillset, mentality and experience - in the US probably going full on on agriculture [recent US protectionism and isolationism will give you decent levels and shield for globalized markets], learning some minimal hardware tinkering to automate drones and later manage android workers, software for planning farming automation etc... hire hands for physical labour and BUILD AND MANAGE A FARM or something like that (maybe farm + restaurant or smth else form tourism / hospitality)

kajman 5 hours ago|||
All of the three sectors you've mentioned are not in a good place right now. Probably much less stressful to be an unemployed programmer than trying to make a hobby-scale farm profitable with soaring fuel and fertilizer prices, along with a labor force that is fleeing.

E: Farm automation probably has some juice though, regardless of how close the androids I keep seeing in demos actually are.

kinow 5 hours ago|||
With some knowledge in devops and cyber maybe moving to QA, tester could work too. But the idea to move towards agro is a good idea too!
discardable_dan 6 hours ago||
You should link to your resume
soopypoos 7 hours ago||

  I spoke a million words
  They didn't mean that much to me
  They rang around my head
  Like empty tuneless harmonies
  Love's great abstraction mine
AussieWog93 8 hours ago||
Can't offer you any work unfortunately, but have an updoot. Hope this gets to the top and helps you provide for your son.
slopinthebag 7 hours ago||
It's not just tech, other industries are experiencing the same hiring woes. I think the economy is deeply broken, it shouldn't work like this and it doesn't seem like there is any hope in fixing it - governments just continue to run up debt as if they can just keep kicking the can down the road indefinitely. eventually the can becomes a brick and you break your foot.

there will be a reset at some point, and software developers will be needed. especially when every piece of software stops working. idk if that will happen before or after an economic collapse tho.

i have no idea where things will go in the future, but i doubt it will be much fun

kajman 5 hours ago|
I'm confident the world will need more software developers than ever before, no matter where "AI" goes from here.

I don't think most of those jobs will be in the West, though.

lionkor 1 hour ago||
Why not? Are there any software-related industries in the West where software engineers are not needed or won't be needed?
shadowgovt 13 hours ago||
Oof. There are two pieces to this story. One is great and one his heartbreaking.

The fact that modern tech has disintermediated people with problems to solve from the need for a "priest class" to commune with the machine to solve the problem is a great thing. It's the goal. The more we do it the better we are making the world for humans.

... the fact that people need to work to eat or provide anything above a subsistence quality of life is not only tragic, it's increasingly abhorrent in a world where automation and simplification via machines has freed up this much raw resource and free time.

If we're pitting LLMs against people's ability to provide for their families, we have lost the thread on why we're doing any of this.

renticulous 8 hours ago||
> this much raw resource and free time.

Those resources are being redirected to create entertainment areas for the rich like golf courses, 7 star luxury hotels and villas. This is the modern predicament.

arkt8 12 hours ago|||
Not he automation, but the way... we gone farther since agricultural and energy domestication... but the profit as main director is less than suboptimal, it is tragical. Having known about many accidents in complex systems is a madness to see things at this point in the most complex of systems that is society.
hgyyy 12 hours ago||
Profit is what drives the survival of the firm to be fair

However there are tasteful ways of doing it. And google and meta in particular certainly are not.

fatata123 21 minutes ago||
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SadErn 8 hours ago|
I may be missing something, but this doesn't read to me like an abstraction or AI-related problem.

It sounds more like a packaging issue. I know he's attempted to edit his resume, but there's missing information here that OP may not even be aware of.

For instance, I recently became the last of two candidates interviewing for a great opportunity that I sadly lost. When I received feedback, it turned out the hiring committee had a completely different sense of one aspect of my work than I had attempted to convey. I'm glad I got the feedback, but it was frustrating to lose after so many interviews.

Then just recently, I interviewed a candidate at my current company who reminded me of OP. Laid off worker, very nice guy, but he had no idea how to portray himself as a dev at the level he was applying for.

I wanted to call him up and coach him, but it didn't seem appropriate, especially since he didn't ask for feedback.

If you are in this position, find a free coaching program that can help you revamp and resell what you have to offer.

It's not fair to have to do that just to get a chance to be paid a fair wage. But companies get thousands of resumes a month and do dozens of interviews.

We try to give candidates a chance to show us who they are, but if what they are showing us doesn’t line up with the role, or their strengths are buried, there’s only so much we can infer. It sucks, because the resume and interview are not the job. But they are the gate you have to get through before anyone sees the work.