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Posted by remote-dev 5 days ago

I am worried about Bun(wwj.dev)
520 points | 349 commentspage 4
jwpapi 5 days ago|
I think the motion that Claude Code and Anthropic has is trying to force-hide stuff from you. Some hopefully remember the shitstorm that happened, when they changed. Reading xxx.yy to reading 1 file or reading 2 files.

More changes like this came and they were not or very hard to configure. I understand the business idea behind it. Make them to use AI as much as possible, get the human out of the loop. More training data. More Token Usage JUHUU.

However I think that made Claude Code so much worse and so much more untrusthworthy. It’s a sneaky attempt to take away the driving wheel from you. And if you follow that logic, way more and way more things seem reasonable.

But mainly for now it just generated a lot of distrust for me

avsn 5 days ago||
Nothing to worry about anymore, the ship has sailed the moment it was acquired.
Imustaskforhelp 5 days ago||
Aube[0] seems interesting to me, I have submitted it as show HN after hearing about your post. Its created by the same person who has made mise and I actually discovered it when I was browsing through on mise.en.dev website

I still use bun, but I think that there are some other pathways so I am not that worried about myself personally. But that's also because I most often than not code in golang rather than typescript/javascript

[0]: https://aube.en.dev/

ezekiel68 5 days ago||
Ugh. I hate these "guilt by association" hit pieces. Nothing is wrong and yet we must signal our virtue.

Might as well just open our pants and wave our wangers, hoping for a better world

hootz 5 days ago||
If Disney acquired your favorite IP, wouldn't you get worried?
ezekiel68 5 days ago||
Yes, but I wouldn't stop watching the originals. And I wouldn't stop watching anything until I saw what came out.
lstodd 5 days ago||
What is there to worry about? If we believe AI crowd, Bun and entire JS ecosystem is done for. Dead. Nothing to worry about since nothing's left.

If as claimed everyone and his malnourished cellar rat can whip up a SaaS on a whim, then why that SaaS should be built upon chromium+js+http instead of tcp+native ui?

Remember, choice of ui is no longer a constraint. Nothing is a constraint or so they say.

So it follows that all this javascript stuff can at last die.

hjort-e 5 days ago||
vite and it's ecosystem is actually becoming the unified toolchain with vite+. IIRC pnpm will also be the preferred package manager in the tool
wg0 5 days ago|
There's a VC behind that too.
hjort-e 5 days ago||
It has eject functionality and all the subcomponents are independent open source projects.
pjmlp 5 days ago||
I still see no monetization with Bun and Deno to keep them going.

You see this all over the place with other programming languages.

The ones that have bleeding edge features do so, because there are companies, or universities (for their PhD and Msc thesis), that invest into those ecosystems.

In the end nodejs will keep improving, with Microsoft and Google's baking, and that will be it.

moomoo11 5 days ago||
Why do people use bun? Would like an answer from an actual experienced / staff tier or higher engineer.
sroussey 5 days ago||
Simplicity.

bun file.ts

And it’s been this way for years.

Don’t care about what’s in a package.json file or if there is one. Can do this without tsconfig file as well.

kigiri 5 days ago|||
Also this works on node too now, don't sleep on node improvements
MoonWalk 5 days ago||||
How is that better than Deno?
moomoo11 5 days ago|||
Really? This was like a intern level response lol
bel8 5 days ago||
I'm no staff+, but the tooling (package manager and TypeScript runner) is very fast.

bun run is <1s for my projects, while watching for file changes. So the iteration speed is quite pleasant.

robertjpayne 5 days ago|
All these complaints about Claude code are mostly resolved if you pay for your usage with direct API pay as you go. It’s not cheap but nearly all the complaints I see about Claude code are due to the fact the subscription plans seem unsustainable from a cost perspective.
dboreham 1 day ago|
I use the subscription and so far have had no problems.
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