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Posted by MrBuddyCasino 2 hours ago

About 10% of AMC movie showings sell zero tickets. This site finds them(walzr.com)
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kleiba2 1 hour ago|
When I lived in Germany, I had an apartment in the vicinity of three tiny arthouse theaters. I used to go there all the time by myself because you could basically walk to all three of them. Saw a lot of movies I would have never seen otherwise, most of which I don't remember at all.

The theaters were never full. So it was basically just like watching a movie in your own living room. Yeah, except maybe for the handful of strangers that were there to watch with you.

menno-sh 15 minutes ago||
Here in Amsterdam (and the rest of the Netherlands) all the arthouse theaters have joined forces with the Cineville subscription [0], which gives you unlimited access for I think 25 euros a month. I get a subscription for a few months sometimes and you wind up seeing so many cool films

[0] https://cineville.nl

jojobas 36 minutes ago||
Pros: get to watch movies alone.

Cons: have to watch arthouse.

wodenokoto 2 hours ago||
I remember I went to a small showing once as a kid. It was just our group and 1 lady in the theater.

We got to small talk and the lady mentioned she had once been the only customer for a showing and told the projectionist that she didn’t want to be a bother and could come back and another day.

The projectionist had apparently replied that it was no bother - they would roll the movie even if no one showed up!

compounding_it 1 hour ago||
Im assuming (though rare) it’s the same with flights. They keep the schedule for movies in case someone joins half hour late. Plenty of people visit my the cinema for all kinds of reasons other than the content (like sleeping in the AC among other things that come to your mind). Keeping the movie going rather than waiting for someone to show up and make it awkward would probably be better for customer service too.
qq66 1 hour ago|||
Well it's very different for flights, they need the plane at the destination so they have to fly it. With movies it's probably just simpler to start the movie than to try to manage the logistics of not starting it, just to save 2 hours on the projection bulb.
thrownthatway 9 minutes ago|||
> different for flights

Maybe. Depends.

I’m sure I’ve heard of the low cost carriers cancelling flights that are under-sold at the last minute.

Would make sense if the destination has fewer tickets sold from there.

c0_0p_ 1 hour ago|||
These days that's probably true, but when a projectionist needed to roll the film and babysit the equipment I doubt it would be worthwhile.

Not to mention that film rolls do wear out overtime.

danillonunes 1 hour ago|||
This makes sense if someone bought a ticket and didn't showed up, but what if none was sold? They could just stop selling after a certain time and be sure nobody will be there late.
kombookcha 1 hour ago|||
When I worked at a small cinema we would set up the movie to run regardless, because sometimes you would get late-showers buying tickets at the front desk and it's much more trouble to have to speed-start a movie for the projectionist than to be able to do it at the regular schedule. If you start it too late without manually remembering to forward past ads and trailers, you can also risk spilling into the next timeslot causing a pileup of delays. It's far simpler to just start the movie for an empty hall, and let customers join after it's started if they want to.

I'm unsure exactly how the deals with local businesses running ads before the movies are set up, but I could imagine that you're supposed to be running the ads an agreed upon number of times, regardless of ticket sales.

Sometimes in the daytime we would get retirees who would watch a movie and basically loiter around, and occasionally ask if they could catch the end of a different movie running in an empty hall. You'd sometimes let a regular crash an empty screening like this if they bought an extra snack or coffee for it or something.

nebula8804 1 hour ago|||
Studio contracts: The movies are delivered digitally on encrypted hard disks and when playing there is a ton of telemetry sent back to the studios. They are watching the theaters like its 1984. Studios have contracts indicating the play will play X times no more and probably no less(else studios might hold back the good movies). AMC keeps it simple. Play the movie even if no one shows up. AMC in particular uses laser projectors now so who cares. They ain't burning out any projector bulb.
yoz-y 1 hour ago|||
When I was a kid I wanted to go see The Avengers (the o.g. one, from 1998).

I had to go to the cinema 3 times, because they would not do a projection for less than 5 people.

bigstrat2003 45 minutes ago||
That must vary by theater, or perhaps practices change from time to time. My brother worked at a movie theater in high school (20 years ago), and the theater he worked would not play movies if nobody had bought a ticket. He told me they would occasionally catch people trying to sneak free movies that way - the projectionist would notice someone in the theater for a time which was going to be canceled, call the box office to confirm if they had sold a ticket, and if not they would get a manager to escort the person out.
mzelling 5 minutes ago||
This site will probably defeat its purpose. You discover an empty showing and are excited to have your own "private theater", but thanks to this site, somebody else will have the same idea and you'll both have to share your private theater.
ButlerianJihad 9 seconds ago|
AMC will revoke or modify their API and break this app’s functionality every 2 weeks on a Thursday
cryptozeus 1 hour ago||
May be I am in minority but I would hate to be alone in entire theater. I enjoy some vibe and people around
jader201 26 minutes ago||
There are times I would agree with you, and times I wouldn't.

If the theater is full of people talking during the movie or lighting the place up while they’re on their phone (in either case ignoring the movie), then I’d rather be alone.

It seems like more times than not, this is the case.

flomo 1 hour ago|||
In a previous life, I would go to a lot of art movies, often matinees or monday or etc. Sometimes there was one guy who was working the box-office, the snackbar, and the projection. I was glad he had a job.
badgersnake 34 minutes ago|||
Are you American? US cinema culture seems very different to the UK (the only other place I’ve been). In the US it seems much more the norm to react to the film, in the UK generally folks sit in silence.
falsemyrmidon 32 minutes ago||
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MrBuddyCasino 1 hour ago||
Yes this is what people get wrong about "home theater". Its not just the tech, its the experience of watching something with others, amplifying the emotions.
bitwize 1 hour ago||
Man, seeing The Avengers (2012) in a PACKED theater full of excited Marvel fans was something else. The deafening roar completely drowned out the Hulk's line "puny god".
caymanjim 2 hours ago||
Do enough people buy tickets in advance now that this really indicates anything of value? I'm old and have never pre-purchased a movie ticket in my life. I assume a lot of people do, but the few times I've been to the movies lately, it seems people are buying tickets at the theater.
sschueller 17 minutes ago||
Last time I was in a US theater the tickets where not numbered and you could sit anywhere. There was no point in pre purchasing a ticket because if you wanted a good seat you needed to show up early either way.

In Switzerland the seats have always been numbered and even if the cinema is empty people wouldn't dare move into another seat. People do show up right before the film starts and try to avoid the ads. Some also hang in the lobby until the film actually starts.

kelnos 1 hour ago|||
I'm "old" (mid-40s) and cannot remember the last time I didn't pre-purchase a movie ticket. The movie theater I go to the most (Alamo Drafthouse in San Francisco) rarely has anyone in line at the box office when I walk through there. That box office is usually only staffed by one person, which should tell us something about how many people need in-person service.
m463 2 hours ago|||
I'm finding that more and more, when I impulsively go to the theater and try to buy tickets at the door... I always find the only tickets available are horrible, like in the front row to the side. You want like F-6 and F-7 and get A-2 and B-2.

And if I even accept this, the people in the choice seats invariably show up right when all the trailers are wrapping up.

so - people buy tickets ahead of time, and it might be the only way to watch it from a reasonable seat.

This probably doesn't apply to off-hours like tuesday afternoon or whatever.

sbrother 2 hours ago|||
wait... I don't think I've ever experienced assigned seats in a movie theatre. Is that a thing?
linsomniac 1 hour ago|||
Yes, it's been a thing for at least a decade, I imagine it helps with pre-sales online, though it may just be offered as a convenience. It really does help keep the movie from unexpectedly being a lousy experience; if you're stuck in a crappy seat, or your family can't sit together, it's because you picked those seats. As someone else mentioned, it also allows them to bring you dinner and provide that upsell as well.

Even our small independent theater in town has reserved seats, some of which are couches.

LordDragonfang 49 minutes ago||
> it's been a thing for at least a decade

Maybe in fancy theaters, but in most places it started during covid (and just never stopped)

Lindby 2 hours ago||||
I've never been to a theater without assigned seats. Maybe it's a regional difference?
voidfunc 1 hour ago||
Regional where...? Never seen this in the Northeast.
jb1991 1 hour ago|||
Outside North America just about every country I’ve ever lived in or visited had assigned movie ticket seats.
nottorp 50 minutes ago||
And in some places there are so few movie theaters that, at least on weekends, you have to buy days in advance or you might as well stay home.
disillusioned 1 hour ago||||
It's shifted a lot in the past few years: AMC has assigned seating in most (all?) theaters, for instance. Our regional theater, Harkins, same.

Personally, I like being able to select the exact seats and pre-order popcorn and soda and just have it show up to me right as the trailers end.

k4rli 1 hour ago|||
I'm also in the northeast (Europe). It is quite normal to have assigned seats.
ravenstine 1 hour ago||||
When I grew up in LA 20+ years ago, seating was way more casual. Now everywhere seems to want assigned seating. I think this is in part because so many theater chains now offer a "premium" dining experience. It's yet another reason I rarely go to theaters anymore, on top of most of the film offerings being crap.
jb1991 1 hour ago||||
It’s the only way I’ve ever seen movie tickets sold outside of North America anywhere.
vasco 1 hour ago||
You can find both kinds, in europe especially the cut is very clear, commercial cinemas ALWAYS have assigned sitting. The kind you see at malls and have the Hollywood rotation of marvel shit movies.

Then you have smaller cinemas with indie movies, european movie festival rotation, etc, and many of those in at least 4 or 5 countries in Europe I can confirm do NOT have assigned sitting.

tdeck 1 hour ago||||
I feel like the newer (e.g. post 2010s) theaters with more "premium" comfortable seats tend to assign seats these days. Probably differs by chain.
IncreasePosts 2 hours ago|||
Yes for higher end theaters like imax and the kind where everyone had a recliner chair
jb1991 1 hour ago||
Or just about any movie theater of any kind outside of North America.
ButlerianJihad 1 hour ago|||
If you go up to the box office and ask for "Alt-F4" they will act surprised and confused, but just tell them to type it into their computer
dewey 2 hours ago|||
I don’t remember the last time I bought a ticket at the cinema. I like picking my own seats online.
pjmlp 2 hours ago|||
In most European countries you only get reserved seats at big multiplex cinemas, stuff like Cinestar, NOS and so on.

On the European Cinema network [0], reserved seats is a long gone concept.

So not always a given that seats can be reserved online for cinema, depends on ones location.

[0] - https://www.europa-cinemas.org

magicalhippo 1 hour ago|||
Here in Oslo, Norway I only know of the local cinematheque which doesn't do reserved seats. All commercial theaters have reserved seats, even for the small screens with just a dozen or so seats. Been so as long as I can remember, so several decades.

So yea, location dependent.

sixhobbits 2 hours ago||||
I've been to several European Network cinemas and always gotten reserved seats
pjmlp 1 hour ago||
I can assert that none of those I usually go have reserved seats, what they do have is reserved tickets.

I guess it depends then.

dewey 1 hour ago||||
That's not true, I frequently reserve seats at the "Yorck" cinema chain in Berlin which is part of Europa Cinemas and has seat reservation.
delusional 1 hour ago|||
I don't recall having been to any cinema in denmark ever that did not do assigned seats. They won't check if nobody complains, but is is printed on the ticket.
kuboble 1 hour ago||
In Switzerland it's a mix. The theater we use most frequently doesn't have assigned seats.
hombre_fatal 2 hours ago|||
Yeah, whether I go hinges on the seats available.
stingraycharles 2 hours ago|||
> I'm old and have never pre-purchased a movie ticket in my life.

I’m old and have always pre-purchased tickets, even in the 90s, as that’s the way to get better seats.

WillPostForFood 1 hour ago||
You sure about the 90s? Not saying it was impossible, but must have been extremely rare. Arclight was one of the first theaters to do assigned seats in 2002. AMC only started trialing in 2008, but didn't start rolling it out until 2016 in NYC.
stingraycharles 44 minutes ago|||
Totally possible, was through a central phone number in The Netherlands called "BelBios" ("CallCinema"). You were guided through the different movies and showtimes, pressed the numbers, and got a booking code. You then went to the cinema, provided your booking code and paid.
magicalhippo 1 hour ago|||
In the US perhaps. Seat reservation has been the norm here in Norway since at least the 80s.
JoshGlazebrook 2 hours ago|||
Do people really just show up and hope for the best anymore?

The "box office" is not even really a thing anymore at most theaters. And the single person you talk to inside that is the "box office" just uses the same system you can reserve seats yourself on your own time?

Pretty much every theater is reserved seating these days. Why would I risk showing up last minute on a whim and end up in a horrible seat near the front of the screen?

MattGaiser 2 hours ago||
Mostly because unless it is a really desirable movie, hoping for the best has an expected outcome close to the best.I am a planner in most things, but for movies, it often simply does not matter.
linsomniac 1 hour ago||
Curious... Unless it's a really desirable movie, I typically won't go to the theater to see it. ;-)
SwellJoe 2 hours ago|||
I'm the same way, as I'm terrible at scheduling and often don't arrive on time for things I book in advance. So, I'll tend to show up at the theater and see whatever looks good that's coming up soon. But, I get the impression a lot of people do buy in advance these days.

But, I love the idea of a theater almost entirely to myself.

lisp2240 2 hours ago|||
I assume everyone is using something like MoviePass because it’s way cheaper than paying full price. And they don’t allow you to pre-purchase tickets.
pjmlp 2 hours ago|||
Same here, gen-x, in what concerns cinema, sometimes I do reserve if it is in high demand, but that is about it.
JoshTriplett 2 hours ago|||
I exclusively buy tickets online, and whatever seats show up as empty online are empty when we show up.
vidarh 1 hour ago||
Yeah, unless it's just me, and on a whim, which doesn't happen often, I'd always reserve online.
yieldcrv 2 hours ago|||
I haven’t bought a seat at the theater in over a decade

And the online process shows you which seats are already filled and I base my decision on that when there is assigned seating. One thing peculiar is that the theatres are not often as filled as the seat map shows, makes me think that an even newer generation of the movie ticket subscribers (AMC A-List) are reserving seats and changing plans

BikiniPrince 1 hour ago||
Quite a bit in the early showing for good movies. Project Heil Mary has continued to sell all the good seats out and I’m bad at planning ahead for entertainment. It usually isn’t obvious because most of the movies have been atrocious in the last several years.
gsky 6 minutes ago||
i watched 2 movies all alone. Once operator asked me to switch movies since i was the only one
protocolture 1 hour ago||
I used to frequent the brisbane regent cinema precisely because it was reliably empty. The franchise kept it running because having a really nice prestige theatre was good for their brand, but compared to their other sites it was revenue neutral at best.
dawnerd 1 hour ago||
I’ve been to a few showings by myself back in the moviepass days. It was really nice, I’d wait until a movie was basically at the very end of its run and watch whatever was playing. I can’t stand others making noise, too distracting.
stringfood 1 hour ago|
you can also go on your phone if you'd like and yawn loudly and flatulate
maxglute 53 minutes ago||
On flip side had switch gyms to be among strangers becomes turning on gym socialization really tanked my training.
sschueller 15 minutes ago|
Just put your head phones in, no one will bother you.
blintz 2 hours ago|
This is cool. Something about dropping everything to go see a movie in an empty theater is sort of tempting.
zerocrates 1 hour ago||
One of the joys of having Moviepass in that brief period where it was very cheap but still worked was going to random late-night showings of stuff I'd have never otherwise seen, sometimes being the only person there.

Of course you can still do that with the surviving "all you can eat" plans, but they're way more expensive and aren't quite as generous.

HerbManic 1 hour ago||
The only film I saw in an empty theater was 'The Death of Stalin'. That was kind of odd but a decent film regardless.
nebula8804 1 hour ago||
On the one hand Its fun to watch movies alone on a big screen. My area of NJ apparently could care less about movies like Knock Down The House(Biography of AOC and other house candidates), Navalny (Movie about the murdered politician opposing Putin), The Imitation Machine: Movie about Alan Turing or Last Night in Soho (A wonderful Edgar Wright thriller)

On the other hand, I feel sad that no one in my region seems to care enough about these topics. Instead the latest superhero movie is next door packed to the brim and is so loud it rattles the walls to the room playing my quiet documentary with only me sitting inside watching it. :/

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