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Posted by rolph 8 hours ago

Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy(blog.cloudflare.com)
344 points | 195 commentspage 2
faangguyindia 6 hours ago|
Most of the sysadmin and devops team have been downsized in India because of AI.

Basically, now it's trivial for any new devops guy to run such a query in Claude Code:

“Log in to this production server, find out all services it runs and their deployment method, create documentation about everything, and generate a repeatable, auditable deployment workflow.”

Devops and sysadmins can no longer withhold information to maintain job security.

Boom, 80% of the team gone.

I know companies are doing migrations of production Postgres and MySQL on 1000s of machines using AI agents.

I’m imagining how many SaaS will be automated out and simply be an "agent skill" in ClaudeCode.

otterley 6 hours ago||
Can you support this claim with some evidence? Not just about the redundancies, but I’m also particularly interested in hard data showing Claude is capable of doing that kind of research with near 100% verifiable accuracy and migrations with no data loss and equivalent functionality (which is required to sustain your claim).
faangguyindia 5 hours ago||
is most sysadmins and devops capable of 100% verifiable accuracy? you over estimate average skill level available in market.
zbentley 6 hours ago|||
> Devops and sysadmins can no longer withhold information to maintain job security.

I can't imagine this is very prevalent. That's a very 2004-style corporate immaturity; I get the sense that even the slow-moving behemoths of the software world have mostly caught up to, say ... 2017's recognition of the importance of automation and reproducibility and won't tolerate the kind of malpractice you describe--wilful information siloing by infrastructure teams.

Like, those businesses might well suck at automation! But they've been doing it and firing the people who resist it for a long while now.

vatsachak 6 hours ago|||
Epic. Can't wait for those humans to be rehired after you find out that letting Claude perform 1000s of migrations autonomously is a bad idea
wartywhoa23 4 hours ago|||
What about the 80% of teams? Are there enough trenches to dig in the country for them to make a living?
bakugo 6 hours ago|||
Only downsized? I would expect them to cease to exist entirely in the coming years, as western companies begin to realize that AI is cheaper and more competent than the Indian firms they usually outsource work to.
zelphirkalt 2 hours ago|||
And when it goes wrong, production is down, until they can get a real devops to look at what shit the AI-only guys did wrong. Haha, no serious shop would act like that, but then again most shops are not serious, now are they? So you might have a point.
lionkor 2 hours ago|||
You forgot "make no mistakes" and "don't hallucinate" and "don't delete any important files" as well, those are important.

I found that, without that, Claude makes too many critical mistakes.

bogota 6 hours ago||
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swingboy 1 hour ago||
Cloudflare has been going all-in on agents/agent-first and this is one of the results?
ToJans 4 hours ago||
This might hurt the ones like vercel etc... or even smaller hosting services like tiiny etc...

I don't get the spammer thing? You'll still need to verify your identity, as the whole thing uses stripe? So I don't get all the hate...

I prefer to delegate as much as possible to AI services once I have a mature process that is easy to validate. Buying a domain name feels pretty mature to me etc, so I don't get where all the hate is coming from?

(Maybe I'm way to deep in the whole AI/Jack Dorsey/Block model?)

oatlgr 1 hour ago||
I'd be interested in how this could be used. The $100 cap is the right shape of mitigation in terms of guardrails. Buying a domain is irreversible but has a price tag, so you can deterministically bound how irreversible it gets.
khalic 1 hour ago||
Worst idea I’ve seen all week, I’d rather have the opposite, and I’m an AI developer so not even against it
ivolimmen 59 minutes ago||
So now some spammer/scammer can just instruct some AI to build the next scam and/spam site and fully automated. Just great.
debarshri 5 hours ago||
Ps. Agents can also sell and delete domains.
NikolaosC 2 hours ago||
This is the OAuth moment for agents. Identity attestation + scoped payment token + provisioned account in one call. Standard's forming faster than people think.
bojangleslover 2 hours ago||
I don't understand the pessimism here. You never know the use cases for quickly and automatically rotating domains. There have always been bots, spammers and scammers. I'm interested to see what people build with this.
alt227 2 hours ago||
Maybe something like this?

AI agent calls a human on their phone (even engage in an email chain), whilst talking to the human they analyse the likelyhood of diffferent fraud vectors, and choose the most likely one to work on this particular victim. Whilst keeping the human talking in chit chat to raise their confidence levels, in the background it buys a domain which fits the users fraud profile, and quickly makes a basic website on it. Maybe its a fake login page, maybe it just hosts malware, who knows at this point. The agent then emails the user from a mailbox on the new domain which directs the user to the new domain and commits the fraud. The email from the domain ties up with what the agent is saying on the phone, so it all looks legit to the human. Immediately after the call it deletes the website, directs the new domains dns to blackhole and discards it from its posession.

This is all possible right now. I am also interested to see what is built with this technology in the future, but interested in a very worried way.

M95D 2 hours ago||
Well, let me guess... even more bots and new agentic spammers and scammers?
sshine 4 hours ago|
I recently started migrating my DNS to a DNSSEC-enabled provider.

This involves copy-pasting DNSSEC properties from one web interface into another.

Pretty much everything but this step has been automated in my website creation process: Picking a git template for my site, creating the git repository remotely on my self-hosted Forgejo, setting up the webserver and the DNS using external-dns. Only the domain creation and initial pointing of NS and DNSSEC records is something I sit and do.

I'm not willing to switch to Cloudflare for this feature.

But it reminds me there's more to automate.

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