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Posted by neilfrndes 7 hours ago

245TB Micron 6600 ION Data Center SSD Now Shipping(investors.micron.com)
95 points | 67 commentspage 2
userbinator 5 hours ago|
QLC NAND

The datasheet shows 3GB/s sequential write, which for 245.76TB means writing the whole drive takes around 22h45m. Odd that the endurance is specified as "1.0 SDWPD", which is almost meaningless since the drive takes roughly that long to write at full speed.

At scale, 1.9 times more energy is required for an HDD deployment

...but those HDDs are going to hold data for far more than twice as long. It's especially infuriating to see such secrecy and vagueness around the real endurance/retention characteristics for SSDs as expensive as these.

On the other hand, 60TB of SLC for the same price would probably be a great deal.

crote 4 hours ago||
Perhaps their usual buyers just care less about retention?

Those drives aren't going to be used for cold storage, and it is basically a guarantee that there will be checksums and some form of redundancy. Who cares whether the data is retained for 10 or for 15 years after writing when you can do a low-priority background scrub of the entire drive once a month, and when there are already mechanisms in place to account for full-drive failure?

delamon 4 hours ago||
QLC retention reported to be around 1 year in unpowered state. I would assume, that drive does background refresh, though. No idea what effect it has on total drive lifetime. It is still mean that if you use it for cold storage it has to be powered.
cm2187 3 hours ago||
Why is it mean? Why would you want to use a technology that is unsuitable for cold storage for cold storage? You won't even get the power / IOPS benefit if all it does is an infrequent replication of data and is then switched off.
delamon 1 hour ago||
What kind of usage do you envision for 245TB drive with read speed of 3GB/sec?
cm2187 24 minutes ago||
I believe it has read speeds of 13GB/s, not 3 (unless you are referring to an equivalent array of 10 HDD). It will almost certainly be used to store training datasets and model weights. Which I assume are good use cases for fast sequential reads.
rbanffy 5 hours ago||
You can trivially modulate flash endurance by tweaking the reported space - the less space you report, the more spares you have.
omeysalvi 5 hours ago||
Can someone who knows explain what is the benefit of having all that data in one ssd instead of splitting it up into hundreds of individual drives? Does the single ssd benefit is more performance or does it really tuen out to be cheaper than hundreds of individual drives?
brancz 5 hours ago||
It’s about density in a datacenter. With this you have 1PB in 4 drives, fitting in a 1u rack, which is just incredible. Also these drives don’t use regular SATA or SAS, they use PCIe, so these drives are also quite fast in comparison. Density has a power efficiency aspect as well both in just having fewer drives and requiring fewer servers to put drives into.
pjc50 1 hour ago|||
For when you need to store a copy of the internet, and have been granted immunity for your copy of Anna's Archive.
olavgg 2 hours ago|||
A 42U rack filled with 1u servers with 8 drives each, will have 84PB of data. It feels like it was a few month ago where you could buy a rack with 1PB of storage, and that was awesome. Not anymore.
baq 5 hours ago|||
You’re actually right, it’s just that datacenters like density and will gladly split your data onto hundreds of these little amazing magical bits of technology rather than hundreds of less magical ones in the same physical volume.
petra 4 hours ago|||
Higher density, less power. Those are the bottlenecks in current and new data centers that are built out.

So it's not exactly about cost savings, but having the option to do more, faster.

Also, you could also get much higher bandwidth density out of this vs HDD, and this is great for AI training

m-schuetz 2 hours ago|||
Probably for a similar reason why I would rather buy a single 4TB SSD than fourty 100MB SSDs.
lazide 5 hours ago|||
They’ll still have hundreds of individual drives. Of these drives.
rbanffy 5 hours ago||
And thanks to the density, they won’t need as many racks as they used to.
UltraSane 4 hours ago||
DENSITY. Hyperscalers want to store as much data per rack and per data center as possible. They will eventually have hundreds of thousands of these drives.
i_think_so 3 hours ago||
https://web.archive.org/web/20260505162256/https://investors...

Rather silly of them to hide investor relations material behind an anonymity-hostile CDN.

PDF for those who want it. https://web.archive.org/web/20260506084407if_/https://invest...

WatchDog 5 hours ago||
Would like to see what the internals of this look like, how many flash packages and PCBs are in that tiny chassis?
amelius 4 hours ago||
Data centers are winning.
gigatexal 3 hours ago|
Cost? Durability? Iops do we know?