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Posted by speckx 1 day ago

The map that keeps Burning Man honest(www.not-ship.com)
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pocksuppet 6 hours ago||
I'm not going to be Gell-Mann Amnesiated. At least not without calling it out.

> Marblelous music. Wintergatan is a quirky instrument that relies heavily on marbles to make music. It's beautiful to watch, and doesn't sound anything like you expect.

No. Wintergatan is the artist name of the guy who made and played the instrument.

> The infinite buffalo sentence. It's a grammatically correct sentence, using just the word buffalo. The video explanation benefits from some useful visuals, but you'll still probably hate this. Or absolutely love it. There's definitely no middle ground here.

The visual below this point is completely useless and does not explain how to make an infinite sentence.

yieldcrv 22 hours ago||
This is one principle and shared ethos done really well

Burning Man would get a lot less criticism if they dropped their 22 year old principles out of its 40 year run

Being part of a camp is the least inclusive social chore I’ve seen of any similar event, it is optional while making the “radically inclusive” trek a lot easier. Its a fairly high bar if you don't know the people

“Radical Self Reliance” can be interpreted in completely opposite ways when convenient. The person mooching off of everyone may call that self reliance to themselves, not realizing they are just attractive, while the person “gifting” resources to be around the attractive person can withhold it under the edict of expecting radical self reliance. Its a desert, are people really more or less prepared because that principle is taking up space on a list of commandments?

Larry Harvey didn’t expect people to make these things their whole identity. He was just having fun pontificating some guidelines in 2004.

The guidelines-now-principles are also outdated. Many “Regional burns” that have been inspired by Burning Man have added additional principles more relevant to the times, such as ones focusing on consent and shared consent frameworks.

Time for a new arc

fsckboy 18 hours ago||
That MOOP map is overlaid on top of the actual Burning Man POOP map: all those attendees who stream to the desert from their urbanized homes? they are People Out Of Place, and eradicating them and all the carbon footprints they leave would completely eliminate the MOOP problem while also generating positive externalities.
AcerbicZero 20 hours ago||
Is there anything more "Burning Man" than taking something we've been doing for decades (A FOD walk), giving it a worse name, and bragging about it on some random blog?

I mean, hats off, the author really did nail it. This is as honest as I've ever seen BM get, and the juxtaposition of the unintentionally contrasted with the title makes it even better.

soared 1 day ago||
Imagine if environmental regulation, pollution, etc looked like this.
ceejayoz 1 day ago||
This is an environmental regulatory requirement by the Federal Bureau of Land Management.
Jarwain 23 hours ago|||
They aren't referring to the regulatory requirement, but the response, I think?

Like if people can put in this much time and effort in a remote desert environment to meet regulatory requirements, and document their efforts so thoroughly, why can't corpos?

john_strinlai 1 day ago||||
for the curios or those that skipped over it:

"Black Rock City is only allowed to return to the playa each year if it passes a strict post-event inspection from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM): No more than one square foot of debris can remain per acre (0.23 m²/ha)."

Scoundreller 1 day ago||
K, but what’s a square foot in metric? And percent would be better here. Or per Mille to be annoying.
Sardtok 23 hours ago||
Read it again, it says right there in square metres.
hk__2 23 hours ago||
Isn’t it strange to mesure this in surface rather than volume?
0xbadcafebee 23 hours ago|||
The authorities are saying they don't want to see any trash at all, regardless of volume. Imagine 100 sheets of paper vs 100 AA batteries. The batteries have much more volume, but the sheets of paper cover a much larger area so there's much more visible trash.
Jarwain 23 hours ago|||
Not much difference between a 12" and a 18" lag bolt for the purpose of "how much trash is visible and impacts terrain".

Surface feels a bit fairer in that sense. Or at least, easier to measure.

soared 21 hours ago|||
I fairly obviously meant outside of this specific instance, if pollution etc were policed and responded to in such a manner.
MattGaiser 1 day ago||
This is driven in part by regulatory pressure.
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