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Posted by bsuh 1 day ago

Agents need control flow, not more prompts(bsuh.bearblog.dev)
561 points | 276 commentspage 9
sidcool 11 hours ago||
How does one achieve this?
philipp-gayret 11 hours ago|
Native integrations with agents, i.e. Claude Code's system of Hooks.

Harnesses, which kick off agents with what to do.

Tools, which show an agent where in a process it is, and what the next step should be.

In my experience I find Hooks to be extremely powerful cross-project. CLI Tools are easy to make also, and work really well for guiding agents.

geon 1 day ago||
How is this not obvious to everyone? It's like people forgot how to engineer.
_pdp_ 1 day ago||
Or maybe, just maybe, LLMs do not run deterministicly and that is ok?

In the real world almost nothing runs like that - only software and even that has a lot of failures.

So perhaps rather than trying to make agents run deterministicly the goal is to assume some failure rate and find compensation control around it.

ubj 21 hours ago||
I've said this before, but it's interesting to see momentum go back and forth between the flexibility and ease of everyday language, and the formal rigor of programming languages.

It feels like we are still discovering the optimal operating range on a spectrum between these two domains. Perhaps the optimal range will depend on the specific field in question.

oinoom 1 day ago||
this is just advocating for a harness, which has been the focus (along with evals) for at least the last three months by pretty much anyone working with agents professionally or seriously
eth415 1 day ago||
agreed - this is what we’ve been trying to build at scale.

https://github.com/salesforce/agentscript

crsn 21 hours ago|
Ditto Ethan's point -- and hundreds of customers tell us it works very well. We'd value more feedback from this community, not just the Salesforce/Agentforce customer base!
zekenie 21 hours ago||
you know it really depends on what you're trying to accomplish and if it's possible to describe it with deterministic control flow
throwthrowuknow 18 hours ago||
Isn’t this basically what Palantir does?
afxuh 1 day ago|
thats why agents completes a project with the first 3 prompts, , then maintaining and fine-tuning it take ages till hits "-Session token expired"
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