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Posted by tartoran 1 day ago

New York state set to ban law enforcement, including ICE, from wearing masks(www.reuters.com)
38 points | 12 comments
AceJohnny2 1 day ago|
California's similar law was struck down by court on the basis that states can't legislate federal agencies.

https://calmatters.org/justice/2026/04/immigration-mask-ban-...

> An 1890 Supreme Court case provides that a state cannot prosecute federal law enforcement officers acting in the course of their duties.

> The law also ran headlong into the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, which holds that states may not regulate the operations of the federal government.

chadgpt2 20 hours ago|
It was my understanding that if a federal officer breaks a state law, such as murdering someone, the state can arrest them.
xnx 1 day ago||
Would it be better to require standard uniforms and visible badge numbers?
Eddy_Viscosity2 1 day ago|
It would be even better if they didn't wear masks, required standard uniforms and visible badge numbers, and also were trained properly and also were held accountable when they behaved badly.
SilverElfin 1 day ago|
This will have no effect on ICE. A state can’t regulate a federal police force.

I also don’t get the obsession of democrat politicians with protecting illegal immigrants. I don’t support ICE’s violation of constitutional rights or brutality. But blue states and cities are also just being obstructionist and sheltering criminals. It’s not unreasonable to deport illegal immigrants and this is going to hurt the chance of a midterm blue wave, not help it.

jfengel 21 hours ago||
The vast majority of the people being swept up are not criminals. ICE has been extremely violent, including at least two dead American citizens. It has had an enormous terrorizing effect on all Latinos, including citizens.

Latino voters swung Republican in 2024, but belatedly seem to have figured out that he actually meant what he said. Polling shows that opposing ICE is popular among Latinos, and is likely to boost Democratic chances this fall.

There are also plenty of things working against them, including gerrymandering which is apparently illegal only in blue states. So it's difficult to predict at the moment.

cosmicgadget 1 day ago|||
What have they said is their rationale?
zen928 15 hours ago|||
Enforcement of federal law is not the duty of the states, and refusing cooperation is not the same thing as obstructing federal law itself. It really is not difficult to understand why people do not want federal agencies demanding compliance outside proper jurisdictional limits, due process, or chain of custody protections.

Much like the shortsighted reliance on executive orders as a substitute for legislation, critiques of sanctuary cities often boil down to the assumption that the federal government should be able to override local autonomy whenever politically convenient. But the entire constitutional structure exists to place limits on government power, not remove them whenever those limits become inconvenient. "Its not unreasonable to deport illegal immigrants" is a remedial, one dimensional view.

random3 1 day ago||
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hagbard_c 1 day ago||
"Cliché parroting" makes for a nice sound bite but in this case it is not the best description of what the parent does. If you want to use a two-word phrase to describe his claim I'd go for "pattern recognition" to which I'd concur that yes, indeed, there is a clear pattern of blue states and cities [...] being obstructionist and sheltering criminals.
defrost 1 day ago||
Criminals or as yet undocumented immigrants who have yet to complete their paperwork given the slow grind of US processing?

Other countries deal with such things by immediately granting an in processing status.

The US appears to have a cartoonish approach to good / evil that's just comical from a distance.

hagbard_c 1 day ago||
Those who go through the official migration paths - in the U.S.A. or elsewhere, doesn't matter - are not "illegal aliens" so that word play with "as yet undocumented immigrants" doesn't hold. People who are waiting for their paperwork to go through the official channels will have some form of proof of their application status. If they were told they could await the results while in the U.S.A they're not illegal aliens, if they were told to await permission outside of the U.S.A they are. Those who cross the border with the intent to stay without legal permission are "illegal aliens" and are in violation of whatever laws cover migration - 8 US code § 1325 in the U.S.A, artikel 197 Wetboek van Strafrecht (for those declared unwanted) and artikel 61-67 Vreemdelingenwet in the Netherlands, etc. Some of these illegal aliens violate other (criminal) laws which makes them "criminal illegal aliens" but everyone who stays in a country - any country - without legal permission has violated whatever laws cover migration into that country.
chadgpt2 20 hours ago||
Doesn't matter anyway since ICE also targets legal migrants, permanent residents, and citizens.