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Posted by david-gpu 1 day ago

US Government releases first batch of UAP documents and videos(www.war.gov)
https://apnews.com/article/trump-ufos-uap-aliens-pentagon-re...

https://www.war.gov/UFO/#release

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anigbrowl 19 hours ago|
This is pure propaganda. It's been astroturfed on 4chan and mainstream social media for weeks, though to great skepticism on the former. The UFO nut community (people who make their interest/belief in UFOs into their entire personality, to the neglect of all other considerations) is being weaponized for political leverage, just like the anti-vax and chemtrail communities were.
kevin_thibedeau 17 hours ago||
It's the next distraction. They have a new one queued up every week until November.
lotsofpulp 16 hours ago||||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_the_zone

Very effective tactic. Only solution is to ignore all non local stuff until just before elections.

wizardforhire 14 hours ago||||
As wild as this is, its very true… idk about till November as I think their playbook repeats too often. Regardless, I have friends that run mobile studio vans for on-air guests whose major client is fox news… they get schedules two weeks in advance of guests. Locations… scheduling, production, logistics all takes time and planning obviously… the studios and powers at be absolutely have already thought in advance what stories they’ll be pushing! Not to say random last minute events don’t happen constantly throwing a wrench in things… but regardless the over arching narratives and news cycle are already mostly planned out.
ethbr1 16 hours ago|||
Ooh, like an advent calendar of crazy!

Me? I'd rather just keep reading through mentions of Trump in the Epstein files.

reaperducer 16 hours ago||
Or as one late-night host put it: "The Trump Files, featuring Jeffrey Epstein."
dylan604 15 hours ago||
Kimmel does the Trump-Epstein Files (TM), but as we've been repeatedly told, he's not funny and has abysmal ratings and should be fired. He's so bad, he's put his entire parent company's broadcast license up for review. You realize how bad you must be for that to happen?
BLKNSLVR 13 hours ago|||
I actually don't find Kimmel all that funny, but fuck I'm glad he's doing what he's doing.

Colbert and Jon Stewart are more my flavor. Shame Colbert is coming to an end.

dylan604 12 hours ago||
I'd agree with your ranking while putting Fallon below Kimmel. It is funny to watch each of their stand up routines on YT the next day to compare how often they all have very similar jokes. They, along with John Oliver, like to do supercuts of things where everyone is reading the same script, yet I've never seen them do the same thing to themselves. The only thing different is they are not reading the same script. Sometimes, the jokes literally write themselves and not a coordinated effort.
lovich 15 hours ago|||
I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or one of the cultists. Great job if it’s the former.
dylan604 14 hours ago||
I honestly never thought a /s would have been necessary
estebank 18 hours ago|||
> The UFO nut community is being weaponized for political leverage

Always has been, at least since 1947.

tardedmeme 16 hours ago|||
Probably settles some large polymarket bets as well. "Government will announce UFOs are real" has been a popular one for a long time.
thegrim33 18 hours ago|||
Ah, a commenter claiming something is propaganda .. let's go look through their submissions to HN and see their posting pattern .. Let's see ..

- Trump-related political posts

- China-related political posts

- Iran-related political posts

- DOGE-related political posts

- RFK-Jr-related political posts

- Covid-19 related posts

- Economy-related political posts

- Election-related political posts

- Anti-Russia/anti-"nazi" political posts

My oh my, with that post history, I surely trust you to decide for us what's "propaganda' and what's not. Surely you yourself aren't a huge propaganda account.

lagrange77 20 hours ago||
They really made a sci-fi themed webdesign for this. Can't say that i don't like it.
drowntoge 18 hours ago||
The in-house web design team (if there is one) must've had the time of their lives.
bigyabai 20 hours ago||
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seemaze 19 hours ago|||
I was under the impression that the DoD was not a big fan of Claude.. Codex perhaps?
dvfjsdhgfv 19 hours ago||
> DoD

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that the guy who made his campaing on ending wars the first thing he does after being elected changes the name from DoD to DoW and starts new wars.

sandworm101 18 hours ago|||
>> changes the name from DoD to DoW

But he didn't. That requires congressional action. The DoW is just a "secondary" name attached via executive order. Contracts still say DOD. The only reason people are saying "DoW" it is to appease certain forceful personalities.

Capricorn2481 19 hours ago||||
Yes, surprising in a "I can't believe this is happening" way, not in a "this was unexpected" way. He made his campaign on ending everything. Diving headfirst into the first conflict he could with 0 understanding is the most expected thing that could've happened.
cjbgkagh 18 hours ago||
Americans consistently vote for less war and they consistently get more war. If they voted for more war I’m pretty sure they would still get more war. I think blaming the American public for these wars is a deflection from the actual mechanisms that instigate them. We are more governed by blackmail than we are by voters.

I do wish there was even more resistance though, war has been effectively pitched as costless or even as a boon. Perhaps if this war bites there will be more resistance to future wars. At the very least the Iran war being such a disaster may have saved us from a more costly war with China - which the US was and in some ways still is gearing up for.

Capricorn2481 8 hours ago||
> I think blaming the American public for these wars is a deflection

Where did I do that? There's no one to vote for that doesn't wage war.

But to say voting for Trump was voting for less war is plain ridiculous. You'd have to ignore his entire career. He is famously fickle, is not shy about lying, and abandons friends at the soonest opportunity. A rational person hearing him say "I will end the Ukraine war on day 1" would understand he's saying whatever he thinks sounds good.

krapp 18 hours ago||||
I still can't wrap my head around the fact that the guy was well known for being a liar and a charlatan and yet he was apparently the only politician Americans took implicitly at their word.

Like you'd think Americans would have learned after "read my lips, no new taxes" even if they somehow memory-holed Trump's entire first administration. But I guess not.

wredcoll 18 hours ago||
It is ridiculously hard to understand. I don't get it either. There's something about not just knowing they're a liar but constantly being told that? Trump benefits a great deal from friendly mass media.
dfxm12 17 hours ago||
Most mass media is conservative owned. It follows that they'll be friendly to conservative politicians.
Arodex 19 hours ago|||
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lagrange77 20 hours ago||||
Yes, i don't know why, but i can literally smell that its generated, but it doesn't matter.

Is there actually a term for every discussion about something code related turning into a debate about LLMs, just increasing the signal to noise ratio on the topic at hand?

I'll throw 'second order AI slop' into the ring.

ssalka 18 hours ago|||
I feel like this is a symptom of AI psychosis
amarcheschi 19 hours ago||||
It has that ai je ne sais quoi
bigyabai 16 hours ago|||
> Is there actually a term for every discussion about something code related turning into a debate about LLMs

Having standards? I'm an American taxpayer, this slop is being published on my dime.

AndrewKemendo 20 hours ago|||
Sounds like incredible progress if a middle schooler can do what took a team of professionals (or one focused adult nerd) less than two decades ago
squigz 19 hours ago|||
A bunch of middle/high schoolers could probably build something that looks like a bridge.

I don't know if I'd want to drive on it.

AndrewKemendo 19 hours ago||
Do I actually have to tell you that a metaphor comparing between a govt website about aliens and physical infrastructure doesn’t hold?
bigyabai 20 hours ago|||
You'd hope so, but no, the website is ugly and immediately reeks of LLM boilerplate.

I miss the days when 18F made bespoke sites from scratch.

all2 8 hours ago||
This is literally the Whitest Kids You Know moon bears skit. If you haven't seen it, watch it.

It's a distraction, a means to control the narrative. That's it.

russfink 23 hours ago||
In the same vein - the Roswell Museum and Research Center - the library portion is underrepresented in its ads. It is a library about the size of an elementary / middle school library filled with supposed accounts and testimony, academic-style papers and reports. One could spend days admiring this collection. (I’m not shilling for it, just pointing out the best part is not the latex cadavers in the other room.).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_UFO_Museum_and_R...

wewewedxfgdf 16 hours ago||
It's a dead cat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_strategy

esbranson 11 hours ago||
I do wonder what percent of government actions meet this definition.
mcswell 10 hours ago||
Where is Schrödinger when we need him?
andsoitis 23 hours ago||
Summary: no proof of aliens.
abacadaba00 23 hours ago|
If you read carefully, only “inconclusive” reports have been released.

I guess that’s what “Unexplained Areal Phenomena” means.

SiempreViernes 20 hours ago|||
That's a good point, they should also release all the reports that have been conclusively shown to have an ordinary explanation.
Tubelord 19 hours ago|||
They have. Even during the congressional hearings on the subject they were talking about and referencing many already fully debunked UAP sighting footage
prirun 19 hours ago||||
Along with the reports that have been conclusively shown to have an extraterrestrial explanation. We'll never see those, if they exist.
XorNot 5 hours ago||||
Except some of those would be necessarily suppressed because "it's the X-57" might be the sort of thing you don't want to release a picture of (nor say, F-22 doing some manoeuver we don't acknowledge it's capable of - in NATO exercises F-22 pilots are instructed to limit their flying to keep some of the plane's capabilities secret).
abacadaba00 18 hours ago|||
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SiempreViernes 16 hours ago||
You mean [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2021_Kabul_drone_strike) one where the US killed an aid worker and some children in Kabul?
abacadaba00 15 hours ago||
Um, no. The hellfire fired at a “UAP”. A psyop to cajole the senate and public.

As for US firing missiles at children, that Tomahawk hitting the all girls school had a strike package on record which would detail its intended target.

wincy 16 hours ago|||
Aww man, I was hoping they’d release the ones with the conclusive reports of aliens.
pottertheotter 23 hours ago||
Why does the website look like a video game?
tencentshill 20 hours ago||
Big Balls at the national design studio. https://www.wired.com/story/doge-operatives-joining-national...
MSFT_Edging 22 hours ago||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aestheticization_of_politics
chadgpt2 14 hours ago|||
Interesting idea, thanks for the link
netbioserror 19 hours ago|||
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adi_kurian 14 hours ago||
Hmm. I just read the page. It's about a famous concept that came from a book written by a Jewish Marxist who fled Nazi Germany. he wrote it in Paris in 1935 as the Nuremberg Laws were passed. Killed himself in 1940 trying to escape the Gestapo.

He's not hiding any of it. Masquerade is a bit rich.

daveguy 14 hours ago|||
The blatant dumpty astroturfers are getting annoying, aren't they?
netbioserror 14 hours ago|||
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weakfish 10 hours ago||
An article about a topic doesn’t mean it’s endorsed - are you seriously suggesting that Wikipedia shouldn’t host an article that describes a theory if you don’t like the theory?
sedatk 15 hours ago||
The page uses Berkeley Mono Trial typeface which swaps certain glyphs like `*`, `#`, `/`, and `\`.
Stevvo 23 hours ago|
From Europe I get a blank page saying 'Not Found'. Had to VPN to US to load it.
yoavm 5 hours ago||
Works fine from Sweden. But worry not, you're not missing anything. It's another American .gov joke website.
bombcar 10 hours ago||
We cannot allow a UFO gap to develop. The EU can stay outside GDPRing aliens.
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