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Posted by tcp_handshaker 15 hours ago

Meta Shuts Down End-to-End Encryption for Instagram Messaging(www.pcmag.com)
277 points | 182 commentspage 2
josh-wrale 14 hours ago|
How likely is this about collection of LLM training data?
sam1r 10 hours ago||
I don't understand why they would go in this inversely-progressive direction.

Shouldn't we be aiming to increase e2e encryption for the most regularly used communication platforms?

arealaccount 12 hours ago||
So don’t use Meta products if you care about privacy?
rustyhancock 12 hours ago||
I think people feel this is the begining of the end.

Meta is part of the reason Signals E2EE spread and E2EE became ubiquitous in general.

Many governments have also turned against E2EE and I suspect it's gone from a shield where you can say we can't really help you get that data, to a constant pressure.

arealaccount 12 hours ago||
Yea fine I see that, but their entire business model revolves around exposing people’s otherwise private lives, and they are making a lot of money doing so.

It’s like using a web browser distributed by a an ad company whose business model is all about tracking folks

K7PJP 10 hours ago||
This is a reductive and frankly insulting response. People want to be able to communicate with other people they will use the tools that allow them to do it. Sometimes the person I want is on Instagram, that’s how I can reach out to them. I believe privacy ought to be a human right. I don’t just limit myself to tools used by a very narrow swath of arrogant nerds. Instead, we fight for privacy.
2ndorderthought 14 hours ago||
Instagram should be shut down. Not using encryption for social media and places where users expect any level of privacy is insanity.
chadgpt2 14 hours ago|
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weberer 13 hours ago|||
Yes, most people have the expectation that the carrier is not actively snooping on their conversations.
amazingamazing 13 hours ago||
No they don’t lol
daniel_reetz 13 hours ago|||
Users generally do not believe Instagram is reading their chats. Source: I have had this conversation many, many times.
B1FF_PSUVM 11 hours ago||
> do not believe Instagram is reading

Well, not when they had to pay people for it. Now, however ...

2ndorderthought 11 hours ago||
A lot of people are blissfully unaware how any piece of software is profitable. Tech and business literacy are terribly low.
gregoryl 9 hours ago||
*literacy is terribly low. Everyone using this site is blissfully inside a bubble of people who can at least read and write at a high school level.
lo_fye 10 hours ago||
I didn’t even know it was available to opt-in to! Probably why adoption wasn’t great.
alance 12 hours ago||
Perhaps they should phase out the encryption on WhatsApp as well?
ChrisArchitect 10 hours ago||
Previously:

3 days ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48024160

mid-March https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47363922

alex1138 13 hours ago||
While encryption already ruined FB Messenger (no comment on IG encryption or lack of but people have hated Insta since Zuck took over)

While they ALREADY probably only have Messenger for nefarious reasons https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4151433

He's a bit of a... something. That might get a 'low effort comment' moniker attached to it. Rhymes with ociopath

chris_explicare 7 hours ago||
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ath3nd 8 hours ago|
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