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Posted by 3dedb728-3f77 15 hours ago

People Hate AI Art(mccue.dev)
126 points | 150 commentspage 3
nunez 8 hours ago|
What I especially hate are slides of diagrams that could have been made with Draw.io or Excalidraw but were made with Nano Banana instead. They ALWAYS look jank. Better than late last year, but still very jank.
bluefirebrand 13 hours ago||
I love that silly dinosaur with the emoji thumbs up.

Here's the really funny thing. Crafting the prompt to make the original image probably took more time than that crappy mspaint job.

I'm being serious, think about it. What are the chances that image came out of the first prompt fed to the AI? How much time did it take to craft the prompt to get that weird uncanny valley trex with a thumbs up?

Compare that to googling "trex", grabbing an image. Finding the thumbs up emoji. He didn't even bother removing the white background layer! It probably took two minutes tops to make and I enjoy it more.

emccue 13 hours ago||
Author here. It was the first one. (Not to take away from your point - but i will die shameful if anyone thinks I "spent time prompting.")
bluefirebrand 11 hours ago||
Fair enough. It's always hard to say. Some people do seem to spend a lot of time prompting for images trying to get the perfect one, while others just prompt once and grab the first result.

Either way though, I love your crappy mspaint job on that image and I agree wholeheartedly with the point you were trying to make with it. I think people overall do respond more positively to crappy ms paint memes than the AI gen memes. It's worth thinking about why that is

drivebyhooting 13 hours ago||
Gemini one shotted it.
apsurd 13 hours ago||
but the author said they used ChatGPT. You're saying you produced the exact same image using Gemini?
chacham15 13 hours ago||
I hate these overly grand clickbaity statements. AI is a tool. You can use it well. You can use it poorly. "AI Slop" is the category of lazy AI tool usage. It is the same with AI code. Do you ask Claude to implement a feature and then not do a manual code review? If so, you're likely to get slop.
emccue 13 hours ago|
In this case use of an AI image, if people can clock it (which is super funny people are thinking "well, what if they can't tell!"), is the issue unto itself.

There is no using AI image generators _well_ if you care how people perceive you and your work.

bombcar 13 hours ago||
I think the AI Dino is fine. Just don’t claim it as anything but AI.
emccue 12 hours ago|
Note that you don't think its awesome. The best case scenario for someone normal is for them to be totally neutral. To think "its fine." The worst case is they think less of you and anything associated.

That is not a worthwhile risk - and thats the thing I am super confused more people don't have an intuitive sense of.

schmookeeg 10 hours ago||
I think the AI dino is fine.

I'm not aware of anyone judging my taste in art and thinking less of me. If they judge, they do so silently.

emccue 3 hours ago||
I want to highlight a comment someone made elsewhere in the thread.

> I recently wrote a technical post on my blog where I thought it would be kind of funny to add some genAI of me doing stuff, some people told me they stopped reading immediately once they saw those images… it’s making me reconsider honestly :-/

It was one of the many here that got flagged. Boy howdy this got spicy. But this is the situation I am talking about. Some might think its fine, but a lot of people won't so its usually not worth it unless you want to narrow your audience.

axus 13 hours ago||
I don't always hate AI products, I do hate an economy with no work for creative people.
krater23 13 hours ago||
Why? Do you think that artists would mind if there are no programming jobs out there? I expect no because I know much artistic people that now just say 'Cool, AI can now program my website or some other stuff for me'.
Kapura 12 hours ago|||
people have needed art as long as there have been people. it's hard to argue that websites are equally important.
emccue 13 hours ago|||
What a fascinating take. Framing it like "they wouldn't care if your jobs went away!"

Like wtf? What world is this that you live in?

hackable_sand 10 hours ago||
As a programmer and an artist, I very much need programmers to do programming stuff and artists to do art stuff.

I don't need programmers pretending to do art while artists struggle to do anything.

It's like talking to cultists in here.

zapataband1 12 hours ago||
an economy with no work for creative people(or engineers) makes me hate AI products way more
csallen 13 hours ago||
List of things that the public despised when they were new:

- Cars (expensive toys for the rich that endangered normal ppl and spooked horses)

- Recorded music (similar complaints about it not supporting artists)

- Bicycles (commonly called the devil's work)

- Novels (morally dangerous)

- Headphones / Sony Walkman (anti-social)

I remember when chatting online was nerdy, anti-social, and uncool. Now celebrities casually talk about sliding into each other's DMs.

The initial "it's unfashionable" backlash to new, useful, and threatening technology has been so repetitive and predictable throughout history that it's almost passe now. Most people aren't students of history of course, so history will repeat itself.

But that also means the second act will repeat, not just the first act. And the useful technology will almost certainly become fashionable and accepted once it's more commonplace.

happytoexplain 13 hours ago||
Please, please stop with the AI analogies. Just make your argument on its own terms.

"It's different from X" is no more meaningful than "it's the same as X".

csallen 13 hours ago|||
> It's different from X"

The post doesn't even say "it's different from X". It just says "it's unfashionable," with no comparison or mention of history at all, as if this is the first time a new technology has ever been unfashionable immediately after its release.

> Just make your argument on its own terms.

I feel like my argument is obvious? The "unfashionable" period for useful-but-jarringly-new consumer-facing technology is common, predictable, and short-lived.

card_zero 2 hours ago||
You can't predict culture, you can't predict fashion, you can't predict the course of history, you can't predict innovations, you can't predict any of this creativity-mediated stuff.
add-sub-mul-div 13 hours ago|||
Ironically, nothing makes me question my stance of human supremacy over AI more than the weakness and triteness of human defenses of AI.

Or maybe the defenses are AI generated, who knows.

jejee 13 hours ago||
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chroma_zone 13 hours ago|||
They were right about cars, to be fair
krater23 13 hours ago||
Only cars? I would extend the list with bicycles, online chat/dating and at least headphones.
emccue 12 hours ago|||
Okay but sometimes people despise things and then they go away or get stigma'd into a corner. There is selection bias in that list.

But either way, I'm talking about *the present* which is the time we all live in. Opining that in the future maybe it will be different is like - sure? Not super relevant though.

csallen 12 hours ago||
> Okay but sometimes people despise things and then they go away or get stigma'd into a corner.

Sure, but has that ever happened to a technology that was useful, convenient, affordable, etc.? Definitely gotta be rare. I think the utility tends to win in the end.

> But either way, I'm talking about *the present* which is the time we all live in.

Yeah that's why I didn't disagree with you. I think you're right about the present. But I wouldn't call my response irrelevant. It's pretty normal in a conversation to carry things forward and respond with your own thoughts.

krater23 13 hours ago|||
When you ask me, headphones are for much people the sign for beeing antisocial, especially for the people that want to be antisocial. Online chats and online dating are now so much monetized and hyped that I would be happy when we would back to the old times where it was a nerdy thing or when we could remove it from the history completely.

So yes, all things that I accepted first I hate now. The others I was born in, can't tell much about them. Maybe the people are right but accept the shit later.

jejee 13 hours ago||
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zb3 13 hours ago||
I don't, to me this AI generated image has more value than this human generated content.
happytoexplain 13 hours ago|
The two sets should be disjoint for any self-proclaimed human being.
periodjet 13 hours ago||
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happytoexplain 13 hours ago|||
Why write like this on HN?
emccue 13 hours ago|||
Sephiroth posting on main
xbmcuser 12 hours ago||
This is just cope over time you won't be able to tell if an image is Ai generated, human coded or the way things are going real pictures or video. As Ai at the end of the day is a tool if people don't like the output they keep changing till they like it.

People make wrongly future predictions looking at current output ie first encounter but fail to count for improvement over time. 3 years ago the biggest topic was that llm are not going to replace coders as they are not good but over time as llm have improved that has changed from llm are coming for coding jobs. It has been the same for solar, batteries and ev's etc which were not economical in their location at the time they might have done the research but they are still stuck in that first encounter while prices have dropped so much for the tech that economics are completely different.

emccue 12 hours ago|
Lets just put that aside for a minute because right now, in the present, people often can tell. And when they can tell, which is often, it is a net negative choice to use AI art.

Which is my point.

xbmcuser 11 hours ago||
And my point is Ai is a tool people will adjust it to what they like over time so people Hate Ai Art today would be the more accurate statement. You need to qualify your statement
Kapura 13 hours ago||
I love that this succinctly explains not only that people largely hate this shit, but also gives simple examples of doing better. The photoshopped thumbs up was really good, I love that shit. It is the antithesis of ai slop; the human presence is felt.
evolighting 13 hours ago|
so called AI Art is OK for those pic themself. but it's far too often abused.

All you get are these pieces of glossy junk, yet they expect you to believe it’s some form of creative work. "People with minor cases of major brain damage", indeed

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