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Posted by JumpCrisscross 1 day ago

Meta's embrace of AI is making its employees miserable(www.nytimes.com)
454 points | 520 commentspage 3
onlytue 1 day ago|
As someone who hasn’t spent a vast portion of life believing technology would make life better, I’m not shocked at all.
giancarlostoro 1 day ago||
Man, is Mark hiring someone to run this dumpster fire? I'll take a pay cut (compared to whoever is doing so now) and give it a vision to aim towards instead of the mindless laps he seems to be running through, I'll leave after a year, and it will likely still produce a better outcome than whatever is going on with it right now. I'm a nobody software developer, but I love tech and hate to see what could otherwise be successful fail.

I don't understand why he's struggling so hard with this stuff. AI shouldn't be forced on its employees or users. It should be something available to them, but not forced. I don't understand why he's burning time on so many bizarre things. There's plenty of things that could yield dividends with LLMs like optimizing them for speed while retaining serious accuracy, by coming up with new techniques. If he did that, and made a model that was exceptional at programming, he could compete with Claude Code easily, or Codex. Instead, I get the feeling he has no idea what he wants and is just burning funds endlessly.

He could have had a cool Meta Verse, but he also could have just bought Second Life and had it prebuilt. Now he technically has the pieces, but not the focus he needs. Bro needs to delegate this fire to someone else before the ship sinks.

If I didn't know better, the memes about him being a robot are actually true, and there's a safeguard that sabotages him from making any usable AI as a failsafe to prevent him from building a primitive AI inferior to himself that could kill humanity, plot twist is he doesn't know he's AI.

HDThoreaun 1 day ago|
Mark runs the company himself for no salary. Does come with a private jet and security though
giancarlostoro 1 day ago||
Maybe he should pay himself in order to have some motivation to do better… ;)
haizhung 12 hours ago||
What’s baffling to me about all this is that Meta/Facebook (like all big tech) seems to be completely insulated from their failures.

Take a look at their product line up and tell me one thing that they did really well in the last, IDK, 10 years? And now we also read (and probably have suspected) that their employees are treated terribly too.

And yet, they continue to be one of the most „successful“ (as defined by market cap) companies on the planet. How is that possible?

This just shows that the current indicators for success/how well a company does/how well the economy does are severely misinterpreted.

rl3 1 day ago||
It occurred to me recently that AI's degradation of the human factor via way of increased pressure on the remaining ranks of humans might actually be far more damaging than the AI's output itself.
bossyTeacher 1 day ago||
Not going to lie, I have no pity for the tech employees of a company that has spent most of its existence making the world a worse place. They are finally getting a taste of the medicine Facebook has been giving to everyone in the last 2 decades.
xantronix 1 day ago||
I hear you, but many in the tech industry will likely use this moment as a bellwether of what else they can do to extract every last drop of value from their employees. This is going to get really fucking ugly really quickly if, say, Microsoft, were to package this capability up as part of their fleet management suite to sell to companies who all want their own models like this.
puttycat 1 day ago|||
I agree, but we do owe them PyTorch and React.
bossyTeacher 1 day ago||
The world would be fine with any of the many JS libraries/frameworks
mbroncano 1 day ago||
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classified 7 hours ago||
Good. It's about time their employees are being made just as miserable as their users.
monksy 1 day ago||
I can't wait till we get VC money coming back and the recruiting strategy is engineering freedom and merit.
_doctor_love 1 day ago||
I love the quote in there from Boz that basically says "no you can't opt out fuck off"
camillomiller 1 day ago|
People focus a lot on how Zuckerberg is a deranged sociopath, but I think Bosworth should get the same criticism if not worse. The good face he put on while fucking over the world is utterly disgusting. I got to a point where I just wish ill fate to these people, because there is really no other process by which they can be slowed down or stopped.
dominotw 1 day ago||
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TinyBig 1 day ago||
On top of token tracking, they're also scoring employees on how much they teach Ai to their colleagues. As bad as the token dashboard sounds, employees being forced to try to mine each other for credit sounds worse.
jijji 1 day ago|
Facebook the web site reminds me of a really bad implementation of MySpace. MySpace was better, even in 2003. There are hundreds of usability bugs that exist on various parts of the platform that for over a decade remain unfixed. For a company that has 78,000 employees, you would think one of them might want to dig in and fix the web interface bugs. What's weird is in the age of Claude Code, it would probably take one software engineer a week to fix all of them, so its really pure incompetence. I think they spend more time on automation around restricting the usage of the platform that they forgot about the user interface bugs that plague it.

Also, avoid using Meta Pay aka Facebook Payments, where a user can send a payment to another user via the Messenger app. Someone sent me money a few weeks ago, and a two weeks alter they still have the payment marked as "Completed" on the sending side, and "Cancelled" on the receiving side. I told the sender to just do a chargeback with their bank because Facebook basically stole the money. Don't use Meta Pay for sending payments to anyone. Then when you try to open a "case" about it, you call a call center in Indonesia and the people have no access to see anything about the transaction, they just send it up the chain, only to have an automated response telling you to do something that the web site doesn't even offer as an option. I don't think there is any humans in the loop, besides the Indonesian call center that has no access to any of what you're calling about.

scabby 1 day ago|
What come to the UI bugs, I don’t think the users was never really in their focus in the sense of usability. Users are there only to make profit.
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