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Posted by canergl 1 day ago

Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop(vouchatlas.com)
Hi HN,

I wanted to know which countries you can simply leave your laptop at a Starbucks, and where you can't.

Feel free to click and vote.

59 points | 77 commentspage 2
aavci 8 hours ago|
I liked looking at this.

Every cafe is different and cafes in each country vary heavily by city and area and I am not sure if I have recommendations on how to make crowd sourced data more reliable but I like the work done.

arjie 12 hours ago||
Opened it fully wanting to vote Yes on Taiwan. Saw it was already top of the safety list. Beautiful country and people.
sliqqq 1 day ago||
Good idea, but a hard dealbreaker issue: clicking "Yes, totally" or "Hell no" is never accepted, as it always returns "Couldn't verify you're human — please try again.". Clicking a country in the list will also show a white page. But keep going, you have built something useful here my friend ;)
Raed667 9 hours ago||
The "trick" that worked for me so far is to ask the person in the next table nicely if I can leave it by their side for a moment.

Statistically they're more likely to be honest rather than a thief of opportunity

ChocolateGod 6 hours ago||
In the UK, it's very regional, even in the same city (e.g. London).
Asraelite 1 day ago||
Something similar is the lost wallet test:

https://reddit.com/r/europe/comments/ijboze/study_of_civic_h... source: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aau8712

https://web.archive.org/web/20190327101602/https://www.rd.co...

TejashMKumar 13 hours ago||
This reminds me of Hoodmaps, lightweight crowdsourcing with immediate utility. Main issue is probably self reporting bias, people may vote based on national pride rather than risk levels.
ramon156 8 hours ago||
The mobile navigating is a bit iffy. I can accidentally click on a country when zooming in
newsdeskx 1 day ago||
its not just country-level, its city-size level too. lived in a town of 5k where everyone knew each other's cars, left my bike unlocked for weeks. moved to a city of 500k and someone took a jacket from a bar stool in 20 minutes. the variable is population density and how many repeat faces you see
dooberdeats 1 day ago|
Yes, it's very difficult to make an accurate statement about an entire country that applies and an individual experiential level. You don't experience the average crime statistics of a country at a corner coffee shop.
systoll 1 day ago|
Australian here, and the differing wording on the site kind of changes my answer. I believe I 'can' but also that I 'wouldn't'.

I'm not worried about theft, but see 'reserving' a seat like that as rude, and 10 minutes as longer than is reasonable.

(Pragmatically – I’m more concerned about having an awkward interaction with a barista that cleared the table and put the laptop somewhere, than about someone stealing the laptop)

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