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Posted by canergl 1 day ago

Show HN: Countries where you can leave your MacBook at a random coffee shop(vouchatlas.com)
Hi HN,

I wanted to know which countries you can simply leave your laptop at a Starbucks, and where you can't.

Feel free to click and vote.

61 points | 77 commentspage 4
leephillips 1 day ago|
My first day in Japan (early 90’s) I was in a train station in Tokyo. A suited businessman waiting in a long line put his briefcase on the floor and left the line for a few minutes. He returned to his spot with a newspaper. The case was still there. He had not looked around nor displayed any doubt nor hesitation. Nobody reacted or noticed.

I was born and raised in New York City. This was science fiction to me.

ralferoo 1 day ago|
I was surprised to see in Taiwan last year several instances of people walking into a cafe and leaving their phone on the table to indicate the table was occupied and then going up to the counter to order.
napahlm 1 day ago||
Good to see 4 scientists in Antarctica felt safe enough to leave their Mac.
ramenat2am 1 day ago||
I voted "yes" for Antarctica, because that is the only place I'm confident about.

But seriously, I don't think this website solves the problem of knowing "which countries you can simply leave your laptop at a Starbucks, and where you can't".

It's just a rough indicator of percepted crime rate among a nation.

UltraSane 1 day ago||
For the US this really needs to broken down by state and even county. I know places were you can leave valuables with little likelihood of them being stolen and places where they would be gone in seconds. Small towns where most people know each other are very different to large cities.
badc0ffee 1 day ago||
Canada is currently at 31%, and I call BS. Some of us have this self-image of a country where people trust each other, but that doesn't make it true.

On one hand, I dropped my brand new iPhone 4 (whatever year that was) at a concert, and it was waiting for me at the bar. Multiple people did the right thing in that particular case.

On the other hand, I've had a backpack and camera stolen. I've even had toilet paper stolen while I was loading my car (during COVID). I've worked in offices where laptops have been stolen. Everyone has a story like this.

ktallett 1 day ago||
It's a tricky one as I've left my laptop in Glasgow, London, Tokyo, Seoul, and Berlin. I would say ancedotally they are all of varying levels of safety on the whole as a city, but it depends on the situation and judging it correctly. The only time I've ever had my phone or any piece of tech stolen was in Japan, which many would think was safer.
smy_smy 1 day ago||
interesting!
yanhangyhy 14 hours ago||
china 43%.. LOL
fyrn_ 1 day ago||
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stavros 1 day ago|
I mean, I wouldn't leave an unattended laptop anywhere. Maybe the real test is "if you had forgotten your laptop at a coffee shop for ten minutes, what probability would you assign to going back there and successfully recovering it?".

For Greece, it would be pretty high, but I wouldn't just randomly leave a laptop, because the off chance of something happening is still not worth the trouble.

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