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Posted by paulpauper 9 hours ago

Why we lose our friends as we age (2023)(www.theatlantic.com)
61 points | 63 commentspage 3
elchief 7 hours ago|
put everyone's birthday in your calendar, and wish them a happy birthday (at least a text) every year

like their stuff on social media

friendships ebb and flow, as people get married, have kids, get divorced, kids become independent, move away, move back. don't give up on a friend even if they disappear for a few years when they first have kids

try to arrange at least an annual in-person meet up, if in the same city

try to involve them in your interests, and try to take up their interests, or at least be curious

fantasy football is helpful. golf as you get older. baseball games. meet for lunch if you're in their part of town. host parties for events like super bowl, the oscars, stuff like that

nwhnwh 7 hours ago||
Because the real you discovers that they were never real friends.
mattw2121 8 hours ago||
We become less social as we age...
darth_avocado 8 hours ago||
We grow up. At a younger age you are willing to put up with asymmetrical relationships, mostly because you don’t realize they are asymmetrical. You just start seeing them for what they are as you age.
SirMaster 6 hours ago|||
Definitely not universally true. I was a big introvert in high school and college, but now as an adult I am way more extraverted and have more friends than ever.
forinti 8 hours ago|||
Time is a precious resource and you learn to filter who you spend it with.
sublinear 8 hours ago||
That's not necessarily true at all.

You just have to accept that socializing won't feel the same or have the same function in your life. You choose how and how much to value what you make of it.

Most of these fears are absurd. Why can't you just go outside and talk to anyone you want? If your answers are along the lines of "it's rude" or more honestly "I am awkward", then congratulations you just figured out what's holding you back.

Everything we're doing here online can be (and is!) done offline. It requires some acceptance of discomfort and recognition that you won't be so precious about IRL conversations anymore. It will become as mindless/mindful as you can handle, but opportunities are always everywhere to make friends.

mattw2121 7 hours ago||
I'm not sure where "fears" comes from. My assertation was that we (collectively) become less social as we age. We value social interactions less.

I can attest that is true for me. It's not about fear. It's that I don't care to socialize as much as I did when I was younger.

sublinear 7 hours ago||
> we

I think we're talking past each other here. You and the article say "we", but it sounds more like "you" and everyone else that has not found new reasons to socialize.

I do tangentially agree there may be an answer why the old reasons aren't good enough anymore, but that doesn't mean there isn't as much value.

If anything there's more value (to me) now that I have a better grip on why I socialize as an adult. It became more nuanced with my lifestyle changes. I stopped needing friends and started wanting them. I keep the ones I have for their perspectives on life. I have far less in common with my adult friends than I ever did when I was younger. I deliberately select for that. It helps me find balance.

tristor 7 hours ago||
As I've gotten older I struggle to make new friendships, but I still keep up most of my older friendships. The friendships that I've dropped or let fade away are mostly because they were toxic relationships in some regard or alternatively that I'm simply in a much different place in my life than the other person. I still have multiple friends that I've known for more than 20 years, but nobody left from high school or earlier that I keep in touch with. My path just diverged so much from others once I left my hometown, and while one of my long-term friendships is with someone from the same home town, we both live in the same city now over a thousand miles away.

It's harder to make the time for new relationships when you're older, and you frankly just have less patience for people who should know better and nearly infinite patience for those who couldn't have known better. Ironically, I'm at a point in my life where what I'd like to do the most is teach younger people useful skills that I've learned, but that's a difficult thing to do as most younger people have no interest in interacting with people significantly older than them, and the social context has changed so much now compared to the past that it's socially frowned upon unless you are directly familial related. I've guest lectured at a local college a few times, and I've actually considered doing full-time teaching after I retire from tech, but the types of things I want to teach aren't really a focus in school (think stuff you'd learn in shop, home-ec, or stuff that was never taught).

I have a young niece I teach things and there's neighborhood kids that come around when I'm doing project car stuff in the driveway, but generally it's fairly disappointing to me how most adults stop wanting to learn by the time they're just 20-25, and people are fully stuck in to their ways by 30. I'm still learning new things every day, and I have never lost my desire to learn or to self-improve. I am a different person than I was 5 years ago or 10 years ago, and I think better than I was. There's no reason I should ever stop getting better and learn new things, but just knowing things doesn't make anything better, it helps to also teach others or use your knowledge to help people. So many folks are just completely resistant to the idea of learning something or accepting help.