I stay for the libraries

maybe now isn't the time but at some point it needs to be better understood which models are best for which types of programming or styles or languages. These models are not all the same for every language. The harness is also a factor. Python seems to be somewhat an exception today but that may not last. Another question might be: is there a pattern where you prototype in language X and implement in language Y. The models seem to be very good at porting code. I've used this pattern with python -> c++ SDL to squeeze out performance after I had a working gui. Has anyone measured this in terms of speed (wall clock) and in terms of token efficiency?

people don't write python because of the language. Some do but that's not the main reason. They do to utilise tools only exist in the ecosystem. AI changes nothing.

you still need to look at the code oneday so id say c++ still would be a preferred target language even for ai. i know i hear a lot about rust but im still getting the idea its a niche language overall. i know people love it and point out its advantages, but sometimes good enough is good enough (i.e. c++)

If you can use Python, why have AI write your code? :-)

I had gpt-5.5 translate microgpt.py into a C++ version recently. I had to steer/convince it to use data oriented design to avoid excessive pointer chasing, but the end result was as expected: Now 500 LOC instead of 199, but speedup was 100x. That speedup is definitely worth doubling the line count. And frankly, modern C++ can read very nicely, even compared to Python.

Slop begets slop?

> Go and ... strong type systems

Lol good meme

> The strongest argument for Python and JavaScript was never the languages themselves. It was the ecosystems

That's already a glaring mistake. People could say perl's CPAN is great. Well, it did not save perl from declining in the last 20 years.

> The Python ecosystem is increasingly a Rust ecosystem wearing a Python hat.

Without statistics to prove this, this claim is useless.

Also, depending on Rust isn't that strange if a language is based on ... C. The only way I would disagree with such an argument were if Python were written in Python. But since it is syntactic sugar over C - just like ruby or perl are too - the argument to use Rust here is simply not different to using C. Perhaps Rust is better than C, but it is not fundamentally different. Whether Python were written in Rust or C is not a functional difference here.

As for AI becoming our new Overlord: I honestly do not want to depend on US mega-corporations. I am not disputing the fact that AI has objective use cases. I am objecting this herd mentality of everyone putting an AI chip into their brain now.

Damn AI slop zombies everywhere - it's like in the old B movie "They Live". But with less entertainment value than that. If they chew bubblegum then it is to slop up everything, not to kick ass.

Why use any general programming language at all? Just write it in assembly or binary. Skip the middleman bro