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Posted by akrylov 1 day ago

The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization(avkcode.github.io)
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parliament32 19 hours ago|
> Many people use the wrong scorecard.

Correct. "Revenue" is the wrong scorecard when they're selling 20$ bills for 15$. I too can make a bajillion dollars in revenue with that strategy.

Show me a company not speed running the uber/doordash playbook and we can talk.

megous 21 hours ago||
Matters the most to whom? I certainly will not care about expensive models that do about the same thing cheap non-american models do.

It's like the USA Librem 5 vs PinePhone. About the same HW for $1600 vs $150.

Sure will not pay 10x for "US" thing just because it's a US thing.

seydor 20 hours ago||
That's like saying that Louis Vuitton is monetizing shoes the best. Sure, but it's not winning shoes
kelseyfrog 21 hours ago||
Commercialization is not enough. The US is built on financialization.

Cultivating an ecosysyem of strong capital protections, wealth creation through extraction, and tax advantages for AI finance is what we should be looking for. Commercialzation may be a step towards that, but isn't the destination. We have to create a system where those with money can multiply it, not simple add to it.

sailfast 21 hours ago||
Just spitballing here but I think the financial system’s already set up for this.

Whatever derivative structures and equity and options need to exist will be easily created.

I don’t think we need any additional motivation or incentives to cultivate this for AI. We need to keep some in the tank to handle the fallout.

As a more personal aside: the US would do well to put up some sensible barriers to outrageous financialization and reduce moral contagion risk. Otherwise all these folks trying to multiply their money end up leaving the bag with the folks that don’t have it in the first place - and then the folks with money end up, uh… well, it won’t end well.

RobotToaster 20 hours ago|||
Betting your entire country's future on usury seems like a terrible idea to me, but what do I know.
kelseyfrog 19 hours ago|||
You're really not going to like what happened in 1971.
greenavocado 17 hours ago||
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
bigyabai 20 hours ago|||
Don't look now, but if you've got a 401k then your pension is already dependent on perverse financialization.
topheroo 21 hours ago||
“A system where those with money can multiply is” sure sounds dystopian to me.
npinsker 20 hours ago||
It's (beautifully) dry humor making fun of OP, whose post is rather dystopian already.
topheroo 14 hours ago||
Oop you’re totally right! Bit close to home. :)
krzyk 1 day ago||
This sounds like an ad for US than anything else.

Does any of the US companies earn money on LLMs? No, they bleed money. Github Copilot is switching to token based pricing, which will be costlier than hiring juniors.

Anthropic also is switching enterprises to token based pricing from their subscription one.

From the big three only Codex is still in somekind of subscription pricing, but they'll shift eventually (usage limits are a kind of that, but they have them less stricter than Claude ones)

There is one winner in this race - China. Trump with his agendas and wars makes it even more likely that China will lead this new market.

xnx 1 day ago|
> Does any of the US companies earn money on LLMs?

Inference? Yes.

Infrastructure build and training? Not yet.

inetknght 19 hours ago||
"Where it matters most": accuracy and repeatability?

Sorry, nobody's winning that AI race.

ergocoder 18 hours ago||
Even when other countries won, the teams would have reloated to US.
RobLach 18 hours ago||
US AI models would not survive a free market re: this metric.
lowbloodsugar 21 hours ago||
Same can be said of healthcare.
fithisux 6 hours ago|
Theft without any consequences by copyright laws Surveillance pushed down our throats Labor Landscape destruction AI psychosis Private Companies controlling the AI pipeline Data centers destroying the environment.

That doesn't count as winning at all.

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