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Posted by akrylov 1 day ago

The US is winning the AI race where it matters most: commercialization(avkcode.github.io)
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1a527dd5 1 day ago|
I mean you can argue the same about Telsa, but look at BYD now.

Just because you are first to do x, doesn't mean you are going to be the winner.

pj_mukh 1 day ago||
Yes, and it's doing so primarily because of immigrant nerds, H1B's and F1 bros who chose America and may not have this avenue in the future. Potentially, making this the last race USA wins.
akrylov 1 day ago|
It's a myth. IBM, Xerox, HP, DEC was innovating long before H1B's.
pj_mukh 1 day ago||
There is nothing in the H1B program that makes these immigrants different from the immigrants that ran IBM, Xerox and HP. Other than the country of origin of course.
akrylov 1 day ago||
Jobs, Wozniak, Gates - it's a myth that you need poor migrants pulling themselves by their bootstraps to innovate. Sometimes a nazi scientist like Wernher von Braun is what it takes.
greesil 1 day ago||
The whole country? Really?
phendrenad2 19 hours ago||
I reject the premise that AI can be "won" at all. It's just another piece of software.
shevy-java 1 day ago||
Define winning. They integrate AI everywhere. I hate it. No money shall come from me into AI anywhere. Not sure if I can maintain it, but right now I can.
tsunamifury 1 day ago||
As an American, we may be winning this race but we are still struggling to define why this is the race to win.

The cost of winning this race has been telling our citizen s we will replace them with robots and there is no hope for their children’s future employment.

The cost has been destroying trust as we tell citizens water and power should go to server farms and not them.

The cost has been naked power telling democracy it’s wrong and dying

I think when we discover the limits of LLM tech and tally its benefits over its cost — we may regret this win.

But don’t let me contradict a bunch of fake techno oligarchs wrapping themselves in war like patriotism to get the investments they need to keep this going.

akrylov 1 day ago|
The goal is global domination as always, unfortunately. DARPA and the Pentagon helped create the Internet, and Silicon Valley later turned it into a major commercial success.
SubiculumCode 1 day ago||
Likewise, the goal is to not get globally dominated by China. You cannot point to one without the other. It's not like the U.S. is the only country that values national security and geopolitical power.
Galanwe 1 day ago||
What does it mean "dominated"?

How would your life change if your country became the second wealthiest instead of the first?

This is a ranking and competition no other country in the world gives ... about.

SubiculumCode 1 day ago||
What would the world be like if China led? Whatever Xi wanted it to be like. I do not want a non-democratic, dictatorial power leading the world. You might think that most of the world does not care, and maybe they don't right now. But this is, I suspect, due to the relative benevolence of historical U.S. policy of international law and order. New boss same as the old boss is a motto that is only as informative as the extent to which the new boss acts like the old boss.

Why would the world care? Take Trump's threats against Greenland...actions that run completely contrary to our historical policies and treatment of our Western allies. They were alarmed, because when the leader of the most powerful military in the world makes a threat, you have to treat it seriously. Despite Trump's hubris, such an invasion did not occur because Americans, Congress, made it very clear that Trump would be impeached if he invaded our NATO ally.

Let's say China is ascendant. It is now the dominant military and economic power in the world. China is under Xi's complete dictatorial rule. Xi decides that invading Greenland is a good idea. Stopping that internally would not involve democratic processes, it would need to involve a coup.

Let's make it even more stark. If Germany had won WWII and had become the ascendant world power, would it make a difference to most countries? ABSOLUTELY YES. If there is going to be a dominant world power, the character of that nation matters.

Are there other nations with the character and institutions that could do as well or better than the U.S. has done? Sure. I can think of several nations. But let us not pretend that all nations are equally bad/good for the world.

cyanydeez 1 day ago||
uh, what? I'm pretty sure the AI race matters most is improving society. That absolutely does not equate to making money off of things.
vdineshk 16 hours ago||
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