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Posted by speckx 21 hours ago

Setting up a free *.city.state.us locality domain (2025)(fredchan.org)
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Bender 19 hours ago|
Will WHOIS requests leak my address?

Nope. Even though you must supply your address in the registration form, a WHOIS request for your locality domain will only show information about the registrar.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding their statement but unless something recently changed this is not true. The .US TLD does not permit whois privacy services. The full legal name and address of the registrant will be shown in my experience and I could not find a registrar that would deviate from this.

Are they offering delegation of sub-domains of some domains they purchased perhaps? The example they gave did not suggest this if that is so. If that is the case then whois does not really apply unless they are giving different answers in their whois for sub-domains assuming their whois would be queried.

That is why I opted for .org for a small town that I operated not for official purposes as per the banner a website for in my spare time. When using a .US one can register it in the name of a company or the city can register it themselves through their own government to avoid a persons personal information being listed. Ensure auto-renew is enabled when assisting a city government as people come and go. Pay as far in advance for as many years as possible.

DrewADesign 19 hours ago|
Maybe that’s only for registering primary domains and not subdomains?
Bender 19 hours ago||
Maybe that’s only for registering primary domains and not subdomains?

That is true and would explain my confusion on this matter if they have some list of apex domains they are dynamically creating sub-domains for. Honestly if this is the case I would avoid participating in this. This puts the control of the domain (sub-domain) in their hands for your city. Cities and states can already use sub-domains of their countries .gov domain structure which I realize is full of its own issues but that's another topic all together. Cities can also get citystate.gov in some states but I don't know how that process works.

This project would likely be shut down the first time someone complains to their government about one of the sites.

CalRobert 19 hours ago||
Seeing the list of contacts for delegated subdomains reminds me of a time when there were a lot more local ISP's. Inreach.com for Stockton, lodinet (possibly an ISP?) for Lodi..

But the one that really shocked me was https://www.snowcrest.com/mysc/ - which seems to still be up and running?? I wonder if the login page for webmail (ISP-provided email was a thing! And even hosting space!) still works.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090909141302/http://neustar.us...

nstory 19 hours ago||
Here in the Boston area, the first commercial ISP https://www.theworld.com/ appears to still be up and running, and is similarly frozen in time.
ssl-3 18 hours ago|||
What a strange time machine.

The website offered to sell unlimited dialup for me, in Ohio, using a local phone number.

I Googled that number, and it appears that it may belong to another (related? different?) time machine: https://www.panix.com/dialup/

toast0 18 hours ago|||
I worked at a tiny ISP in 2000. We had nationwide (maybe worldwide?) dialups through MegaPoP [1]; they would passthrough auth for user@dgx.net to our radius server, and charge us (IIRC) $5 for each user that successfully authenticated every month. I think we charged $10/month for local dialup only (where they called into our T1 modem bank) and $20/month for nationwide dialup... at least until our modem bank T1 failed and we couldn't get the telco to fix it so we just pushed everyone to the megapop numbers.

[1] I have no idea what they're called now. There's a huge chain of acquisitions. They may have stopped serving this market, but someone still is.

ssl-3 18 hours ago||
Neat! I didn't know how that worked. The little ISP I used to do some things for had physical POPs in different cities and AFAIK never went with Megapop or similar. Eventually, their POPs became all-in-one card cage devices that took a combination of PRI and T1 circuits and screwed them together with PPP, which seemed quite highly integrated to me at that time.

It does look like these may be Starnet/Megapop numbers, based on the panix.motd.megapop newsgroup mentioned on Panix's website. I did spend a minute trying to find who (if anyone) is steering the remaining dregs of Megapop, but I didn't make it very far.

jrochkind1 13 hours ago|||
Very curious if you would actually get a dialup number that worked if you filled out the paperwork. I guess probably not? But I have no idea.
ssl-3 11 hours ago||
I called a couple of them that were nearby and a modem answered.

I'm not interested in dialup data services at all at this point in 2026. I have no remaining means with which to use such a thing. The last cell phone I had that could act like a modem got retired in 2009 and the last time I had a dialtone in my house was 2010.

But if I had to guess, then I'd guess that these time machines are still operational.

MontgomeryPy 18 hours ago|||
What a blast from the past. I completely forgot that I was a The World customer way back when.
_joel 19 hours ago||
And now it's getting well stress tested
CalRobert 19 hours ago||
Maybe you should try one of the other numbers at https://www.snowcrest.com/dialup/numbers.php - most support v.92!
kmoser 19 hours ago||
> 5. Date Operational......: You can use your birth date here.

Yikes, no!

tkzed49 18 hours ago|
why not?
kmoser 7 hours ago||
It's a vector for identity theft.
kstrauser 7 hours ago||
Birthdays are one of the absolute worst kept secrets on the Internet. There are entire sites that blab that information to anyone who asks.
wowczarek 9 hours ago||
*.eu.org, was (is) an early attempt at something similar this side of the pond, starting in the early 2000s, also free although community managed, but still surviving. Used to be a good way to get a free "proper" domain delegation rather than a shitty iframe alias soon to become ad-ridden, or banner-ridden in those days should I say. Good for 1337 IPv6 hostnames for IRC as well.
ge96 19 hours ago||
Wonder if there is an equivalent to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
deathanatos 18 hours ago|
And here I was thinking Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ouKNv7GN16I)
waltwalther 17 hours ago||
From Wikipedia: The name Taumata­whakatangihanga­koauau­o­tamatea­turi­pukaka­piki­maunga­horo­nuku­pokai­whenua­ki­tana­tahu translates roughly as "the summit where Tamatea, the man with the big knees, the slider, climber of mountains, the land-swallower who travelled about, played his kōauau (flute) to his loved one".
jumploops 17 hours ago||
Just discovered that mission.sf.ca.us[0] already redirects to Noisebridge[1]

Of the "hackers" to get there before me, I'm happy it's them!

[0]http://mission.sf.ca.us

[1]https://www.noisebridge.net

fragmede 17 hours ago|
unfortunately, whomever set that up didn't do it right. http to mission.sf.ca.us works, but if you do https, it's broken. The cert isn't for that, and if you ignore that, then you get sent to http://netisland.net/
DonHopkins 9 hours ago||
Too bad it's not https://penisland.net/
beezle 20 hours ago||
I had one, registered I think in 1991, back in the uucp bang days. Had to give it up due to changes in requirements and IIRC Nustar being a real pain. Would like to get it back but no desire to jump through hoops to do so.
kuanbutts 19 hours ago||
Anyone know why some larger cities are not listed? For example, I am noticing that Oakland, CA is missing. This would have been a major city in 1992 when the list was created as well.
toast0 18 hours ago||
Someone would have had to have signed up to administer the domain during the time that signups were available. In 1992, I think interest would have been pretty low in general. And once the internet became widely known, something.city.state.us domains were pretty unlikable. About the only thing they have going for them is the low low price of (usually) free.
cmdoptesc 16 hours ago|||
That Neustar list is horribly outdated from 2009 and didn't list sf.ca.us and had scruz.net as the administrator for san-francisco.ca.us.

I checked www.whois.us and oakland.ca.us is administered by locality-support [at] about [dot] us

Try sending them an email?

nickswalker 12 hours ago|||
That indicates that approval has been rolled up into GoDaddy at this point, and you’ll have to get a notarized letter from the city for them to issue you a domain.
vineyardmike 4 hours ago|||
Any idea who the current SF registrar is?
ceejayoz 18 hours ago|||
They have to want one.
aaronharnly 14 hours ago||
Yeah I want to know how to get my local government to register themselves as one of these.
adammdaw 5 hours ago|
Wish we had this option in Canada. This would be cool as heck.
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