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Posted by neilfrndes 11 hours ago

Claude for Small Business(www.anthropic.com)
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devmor 11 hours ago|
If I heard my employer was using Claude to manage payroll, I’d be looking for a new job - quickly.
tjpnz 10 hours ago||
If I've learned anything in my career it's that you'll find your most dependable people in payroll.
nunodonato 6 hours ago||
why? you could leverage that and with some nice prompt injections get a raise :D
SilverElfin 11 hours ago||
Isn’t Cowork a tough thing to trust? What if it goes wrong, especially in the hands of users that aren’t programmers? Anthropic is releasing these vibe codes products continuously and I feel like it’s only a matter of time before something goes wrong. Shouldn’t they focus on safety and security first before releasing these?
8note 10 hours ago|
theres a pretty clear underlying system somebody needs to make "git for business"
xboxnolifes 8 hours ago|||
Realistically, git for business is hourly backups. Though, so much of business software has moved to SaaS, so that's difficult to do yourself and instead you need to rely on every individual service having revisions and rollbacks.
yowlingcat 10 hours ago||||
I've been really enjoying claude design but my biggest critique of it (and frankly how vanilla claude handles files in general) is that it has no native conception of git-like version control. In code land you can work around this with harnesses so there's only so much harm claude code/opencode can do, but to your point in small biz land when it's putzing around with a system of record without rewindability, things could get really messy really fast.

A couple more thoughts here - the hard part is not just the data side of it, it's replaying/unplaying actions. Many actions are non-reversible. Code is clean in the same way that google docs is clean. But for many business processes, some actions just can't be unwound once started. If claude initiates a wire that it shouldn't, no amount of git technology will undo that wire.

teekert 10 hours ago|||
ZFS?
simianwords 11 hours ago||
What's new here? It looks good - accessing connectors using Claude but not sure whether there's something fundamentally novel
neuronexmachina 10 hours ago|
I think it's essentially this plugin? https://github.com/anthropics/knowledge-work-plugins/tree/ma...
simianwords 10 hours ago||
Looks useful, so they are new plugins. But what are plugins vs skills vs connectors?
didibus 10 hours ago||
A plugin is just a bundle of MCPs, skills and templated prompts.

A skill cannot provide MCPs and can't provide custom template prompts, each skill is it's own slash command.

A plugin you can define N number of custom slash commands, and you can define MCPs as well as skills. So it bundles like all the things together.

By installing a plugin, you are basically installing a bunch of MCPs, skills and custom slash command prompts.

suyavuz 8 hours ago||
We used to wire tools together with APIs and webhooks. Now the interesting bit is Claude sitting in the middle with MCP, keeping context while moving between them.
goldylochness 3 hours ago||
this is a great idea btw
dundunUp 6 hours ago||
but small businesses are gonna ask the same 4 things: how much, how reliable, how easy to manage, and does it actually save anyone time?
LoganDark 10 hours ago||
Would love to see something other than PayPal. PayPal is known to be rather abusive to small business. Not sure why Claude would partner with them.
zaphirplane 4 hours ago||
Wtf giving a non deterministic model access to use money! Seriously skynet ( terminator reference) isn’t going to be thru control of weapons it will be by buying itself and building a million trillion financial empire
jorisw 9 hours ago||
Abusive in what way?
LoganDark 9 hours ago||
Locking accounts and running away with the money; often tens or hundreds of thousands.
mindmesh 11 hours ago||
This feels like the natural evolution of productivity software: fewer dashboards, more context-aware workflows.
philipwhiuk 6 hours ago||
Remember the old 'Facebook for X',

Turns out Anthropic is pivoting so fast that they're doing all the 'Claude for X' themselves.

Surely 'Claude for Cheese' is soon.

jillesvangurp 6 hours ago|
Good initiative even if it's aimed at the US for now.

Our company supports small teams in Germany with the use of agentic AI. We're guinea pigging this on ourselves. There is a lot of friction taking AI into use right now for people who aren't developers. Most tools are aimed at developers and are useless without a lot of complicated hoops that you need to jump through to connect stuff, deal with permissions, etc.

I'm seeing a wider issue that OpenAI and Anthropic seem to just have a few blindspots when it comes to dealing with UX topics and product management. Anthropic seems a bit ahead but not much on supporting business users. But not by a lot.

I'm more familiar with the OpenAI side. I'm a developer, so I can work around it. But I've been onboarding our non developer CEO and friend to codex so he can actually get shit done and it's not been pretty. He's constantly fighting with trying to wrap his head around repositories, git, having to edit small text files, etc.

Despite all this, it's hugely empowering for him to be using codex. I got him working on our website directly (content and design), he has managed to get his inbox hooked up and our google drive. He's working on presentations, sales offers, CRM topics, accounting topics, and more. Not your typical programmer centric topics (aside from the website). It's OK, he's smart enough. But I'd hate to go through this with junior business interns.

The key challenge I see is company level guardrails and skills and permission hell. I got our CEO on codex because in ChatGPT can't use tools or skills. And you need both to get productive. So Codex is the only option right now (in OpenAI). Claude Cowork and Claude for Small Businesses is a good move.

Skills are where you can express organization specific rules, processes, etc. Simple things like when dealing with gmail, don't send emails and only create drafts. Because we want people approving the final email that gets send, always. We have a growing number of those that are specific to our company and tools.

Another challenge I see is dealing with team collaboration tools and AI. We currently have these weird 1 on 1 tools where you have session with an agent to do stuff. But collaborating with more people requires proper team chat tools. That does not exist currently. I have some internal experimental setup involving Matrix, OpenClaw, and some skills that actually is super useful for this. But I would not recommend that for obvious security reasons.

Another challenge is that most things you'd want to connect seem to be completely unprepared for this. This is an industry wide problem that seems to affect most SAAS products with very few exceptions. Existing data silos are going to be connected to AI tools and this is going to escalate fast. So far, there's a lot of mumbling about APIs, cli tools, and not much else. However, most of these products are completely unprepared for an influx of business users wanting to do productive stuff with these tools and AI. There is going to be a lot of friction there and I think a few SAAS companies seem incapable at this point of adjusting their roadmaps and fighting their reflex to deny access to absolutely everything and protect their walled gardens. I think it's going to be a blood bath in that market with customers and users jumping ship to more AI ready alternatives.

We're only four years in to this revolution but especially with Google their level of preparedness with Google Workspace for this is shockingly poor. Gmail access is essentially all or nothing currently. That's going to cause issues. I don't think MS is much further in their thinking. And these two are some of the more clued in companies in the AI space given that they funded and invented most of it.

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