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Posted by surprisetalk 4 days ago

Regex Chess: A 2-ply minimax chess engine in 84,688 regular expressions(nicholas.carlini.com)
109 points | 22 comments
Kaliboy 5 hours ago|
This is amazing. I'm at loss for words.

During my CS years I remember being fascinated by NFA's, as opposed to boring single universe DFA's.

For some reason I internalized that I would never see something like an NFA implemented beyond text books.

Then came Carlini.

bigdict 4 hours ago|
But... they are equivalent?
xpon 3 hours ago||
Modulo an exponential blowup! That’s like saying P is equivalent to NP.
tgv 1 hour ago|||
Depends on what you mean by that. You can convert every NFA into a DFA. That's a NP complete (IIRC), but running the DFA is O(n). Running the NFA without converting it is also NP complete. One isn't better than the other, but the costs vary for different expressions and usages.
DmitryOlshansky 19 minutes ago||
Running NFA is O(nm) not NP.
pkal 1 hour ago||||
No, because you can compute the optimal automaton (as in least number of states) that recognizes the same language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DFA_minimization
IsTom 48 minutes ago||
And there are language families where minimal DFA is still exponentially large compared to NFA.
froh 2 hours ago|||
The blow up is exponential for carefully crafted academical regular expressions.

im practice is a good idea to build a DFA from your regex, up front (re2) or lazily (ripgrep)

strenholme 3 hours ago||
For people who are interested, here is the solution. In standard PGN, the solution is:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 Nxe4 4. Qe2 Nxd2 5. Nc6+ Ne4 6. Nxd8 Kxd8 7. Qxe4 a6 8. Bg5+ Be7 9. Qxe7#

In the Stockfish notation this engine uses, White’s moves are:

1. e2e4 2. g1f3 3. f3e5 4. d1e2 5. e5c6 6. c6d8 7. e2e4 8. c1g5 9. e4e7

Here is a Lichess analysis of this game:

https://lichess.org/WnMF3LpX

(In terms of Regexes, Javascript has a very rich Turing complete Regex library; it’s an open question whether Lua 5.1’s regexes are Turing complete, but they are good enough for the text processing I do)

dtj1123 1 hour ago||
Brilliant. The Chinese room thought experiment as a chess engine.
evilsnoopi3 5 hours ago||
The technical write up is worth perusing but I played a game before reading and accidentally found a winning strategy immediately. I'm not sure if this is a result of the 2-ply nature of the engine or if the mentioned deficiencies account for this but the computer did not act to prevent checkmate in 1 (without any intervening check); the game I played was (in algebraic notation): 1. e4 e5 2. kf3 kf6 3. kxe5 kxe4 4. d4 kxf2 5. Kxf2 a5 6. Qf3 b5?? 7. Qxf7 1-0
VladVladikoff 5 hours ago||
This is like a fever dream.
userbinator 4 hours ago||
Upon reading the title, this is one of those "I know that's possible, but I'd never bother to implement it" things, although this particular implementation isn't exactly what I had in mind.
neuroelectron 2 hours ago||
Previously posted: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42619652
explodes 5 hours ago||
2025
casey2 39 minutes ago|
Alternate title:

Compiling Python to a Branch-Free SIMD Virtual Machine via Extended Regular Expression String Rewriting

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