Top
Best
New

Posted by Einenlum 15 hours ago

Claude for Legal(github.com)
106 points | 95 commentspage 2
DeathArrow 3 hours ago|
Is this usable just for US law?
IceHegel 14 hours ago||
This seems like a shot across the bow for all large Claude API customers, which I'm sure they saw coming.

But still, a TSMC style pure play model provider would win huge business in the space given how many application companies are being eaten by model companies.

awongh 14 hours ago||
How does this compare to the other legal tech ai startup products?

Harvey is valued at $11b

romanovcode 3 hours ago||
Same as it compared against "Build your website without any code" startups 2 months ago. Now they are dropping like flies.

A life of every thin wrapper company will be the same. Anthropic/OpenAI will just cut the middle-man as soon as they see potential.

moostii 4 hours ago||
Investors in Harvey and Legora are both in for a rude shock.
pawelkomarnicki 14 hours ago||
It will be hilarious to see this one play out because ChatGPT and Perplexity already do wonders for small-claim issues like tenancy laws, various personal letters, etc.
cucumber3732842 12 hours ago||
It's already doing wonders for small time businesses and individuals that municipalities think they're free to jerk around because the size of the screwing they're trying to dish out isn't worth hiring a lawyer and/or fighting through court over.
vkou 4 hours ago||
I assure you, in most democracies, most people are jerked around by other people acting in bad faith far more often than their government acting in bad faith.

Landlords, tenants, vendors, business and former romantic partners, clients, banks, even your local gym is way more likely to try to fuck you over than the government is.

hansvm 2 hours ago||
The government is just people. Even before the current fiasco, the government had varying degrees of incompetence and malice, and if you're poor you can't do anything about it since the government is presumed to have been operating in good faith and you can't afford a lawyer or the time off work to try to fix it pro se.
vkou 1 hour ago||
There is no such presumption in court. If you've been wronged you can get recompense regardless of their intent.
gosub100 14 hours ago||
I would love this for poor people to fight giant corporations via 'lawfare'. It's largely unethical (just like many corporations) but just knowing how to file junk lawsuits that cost corporations millions to fight would be nice.

I dont mean 'frivolous' like prisoners who file pro-se about their ice cream melting [1], but a level or two above that , that costs time and money to produce records and testimony to defend, even if nary a dime is paid out. Basically ask GPT to figure out the terms and theories to file to get your lawsuit accepted, and done by poor people who cannot afford to post $ or repay if they lose. aka "asymmetric warfare" that benefits the little guy, just like the kind private equity or other terrible corporations wield against the poor via"mandatory arbitration" clauses or damages caps and similar rules that always benefit corporations.

1. https://www.deseret.com/1994/3/21/19098386/melted-ice-cream-...

ares623 14 hours ago||
Does anyone find it weird that Anthropic's Github org is `anthropics` (with an 's') and the `anthropic` username is owned by some random dude in Australia? Imagine the shenanigans someone can achieve with that user.
cube00 14 hours ago||
>Imagine the shenanigans someone can achieve with that user.

First step out of line and that account along with anything remotely connected will be banned to oblivion.

Given they share models on Azure, Anthropic will have someone at Microsoft on speed dial.

I've even seen disconnected commit hashes disappear during their security responses which the repo owner has no way of removing.

ares623 14 hours ago||
But for a beautiful window of a few minutes absolute chaos will ensue. Seems like a huge risk. And if Github/MS have power to do what you're saying, does it feel irresponsible not to do it pre-emptively with an apparently inactive account?
dsr_ 14 hours ago|||
One would think that they could spontaneously offer him a hundred million dollars for it and solve the problem.

I half-suspect they threatened him and he stuck to his guns.

sahn44 21 minutes ago|||
A mere .01% equity seems fair
nerdsniper 14 hours ago||||
It's possible they wanted to offer that person convincing amounts of money and couldn't get ahold of them.
macintux 13 hours ago||||
Shades of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Motors_v._Nissan_Comput...
freetanga 6 hours ago|||
Paying for stuff is not part of their modus operandi.
dawie 14 hours ago||
It made me double check if it was a fake repo.
ChrisArchitect 10 hours ago||
Blog post: https://claude.com/blog/claude-for-the-legal-industry (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48113982)
syngrog66 13 hours ago||
if ever there was a domain for an LLM to be sloppy, reckless or emit lies or hallucinations it would be related to law advice and legal documents

er, wait

personjerry 14 hours ago||
RIP Harvey
DannyBee 9 minutes ago||
Good. Harvey was never actually good.
__loam 14 hours ago||
Harvey was always an upstart in the legal tech industry. There's other companies that have a much better understanding of the market and compliance issues but you don't hear about them because nobody wants to talk about legal tech.
ahepp 4 hours ago||
who do you think stands out?
arbirk 14 hours ago|
Would use it if it wasn't supporting the space wanker
nozzlegear 13 hours ago|
Who? There are several space wankers but I don't know of any tied to Anthropic.
Phelinofist 13 hours ago||
I guess he his referring to Musk. IIRC Anthropic uses compute of xAI or whatever it is called atm.