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Posted by reasonableklout 10 hours ago

I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis(twitter.com)
https://xcancel.com/mitchellh/status/2055380239711457578

https://hachyderm.io/@mitchellh/116580433508108130

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mrwaffle 8 hours ago||
Saying the _quiet_ part out loud.
tamimio 7 hours ago||
The hype or psychosis is mainly by mediocre/non expert/middle manager/you name it, especially when a person who never wrote a single line of code suddenly is making a wall of text, and it actually works!? Oh my!!

But in reality, anyone who knows their field and are going after certain specific issue, they will find soon how AI is nothing but an assistant, sure it can help and automate some stuff, but that’s it, you need to keep it leashed and laser focused on that specific issue. I personally tried all high end ones, and I found a common theme, they are designed to find a solution or an answer no matter what, even if that solution is a workaround built on top of workarounds, it’s like welding all sort of connections between A and B resulting in a fractal structure rather than just finding a straight path, if you keep it going and flowing on its own, the results are convoluted and way over complicated, and not the good complexity, the bad kind.

nunez 8 hours ago||
Welcome to the club, Mitchell! Pizza's to the right.

In all seriousness...well, yeah. AI is a monkey's paw, and that's how monkey paws work. So many movies and books warned us!

DonHopkins 7 hours ago|
You just have to wish for the rest of the monkey.
teeray 5 hours ago||
> "no no, it has full test coverage"

There’s this delusion that if we somehow write enough tests that we’ll expunge every defect from software. It’s like everyone forgets that the halting problem exists.

BrenBarn 1 hour ago||
> "its fine to ship bugs because the agents will fix them so quickly and at a scale humans can't do!"

The groundwork for that was laid long ago with the idea of constant updates. It's been fine for years to ship bugs and rely on a rapid release cycle and constant pressure on users to upgrade everything all the time. To roll that back requires a lot more than toning down AI psychosis; it requires going back to a go-slow mindset where you actually don't release things until they're ready. It still needs to be done, but it's harder than just laying off the AI kool-aid.

mattgreenrocks 9 hours ago||
The only way many people learn that the stove is hot is by burning their hands on it.

Let them.

dnnddidiej 6 hours ago|
More like how do you know when your charming partner is a catfish. Maybe 2 years and when you are living in a friends basement.
slopinthebag 9 hours ago||
I have a ton of respect for Mitchell - I didn't really know who he was until Ghostty but his writings and viewpoints on AI seem really grounded and make the most sense to me. Including this one.

Many people on this forum are suffering under this same psychosis.

glitchcrab 9 hours ago|
I'm guessing you've never heard of Hashicorp (Terraform, Vault) then? Mitchell == Hashicorp.
HNisCIS 2 hours ago||
I'm in a company going through this. Everyone outsources their thinking to LLMs and the results are painfully mediocre. The smart ones will use it to get their bearings on the topic then go to primary sources, the not so bright just ctrl-c ctrl-v.

Have you ever been in an HN thread where you're an SME on the thread topic and just been horrified by the confidently incorrect nonsense 90% of the thread is throwing around? Welcome to the training set motherfuckers.

LLMs do the same thing for what should be obvious reasons. If you search things that have some depth and you know the answer you'll be flooded by how often the models will just vomit confident half truths and misrepresented facts. They're better than they used to be, not just lying whole cloth most of the time, but truth is an asymptotic thing, not an exponential one.

LAC-Tech 8 hours ago|
I am really looking for more reasoned approaches to AI.

I am very close to using it as a pair programmer, but with me actually coding. I am just so tired of fixing its mistakes.

nunez 8 hours ago||
Isn't going to happen without the regulation hammer being thrown down.

Probably from the EU because they seem to be the sane ones of this generation.

LAC-Tech 7 hours ago||
Talking about my own personal workflow. No company has dictated one tl me yet lol.
alexzhaosheng 7 hours ago||
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