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Posted by frays 7 hours ago

Frontier AI has broken the open CTF format(kabir.au)
216 points | 178 commentspage 4
Gathering6678 4 hours ago|
I thought a company called Frontier broke a file format CTF.
eecc 6 hours ago||
“solve”, why not solution? Like “spend” and not expenditure, why use the verb as a noun and not care about grammar?
sheept 6 hours ago|||
These examples that you're calling "verbs as a noun" are standard grammar. You can't just invent simplified rules about a language and declare it wrong when the rules fall apart.
iainmerrick 6 hours ago||
They’re shorter.

Why so pedantic?

virtualritz 5 hours ago||
Chess and Go are not dead just because Ai got better than humans at these games.

What am I missing here?

jofzar 5 hours ago||
These have very strong anti cheats and in person is very stringent on no electronics.

Its not really a good comparison

hnlmorg 5 hours ago|||
You aren’t allowed to use tools to play competitive Chess / Go but that are required for solving CTF.
lugu 4 hours ago||
Read the article.
virtualritz 2 hours ago|||
I read the article. Their chess section makes no sense as in "why this wouldn't work for CTF".

But I don't know enough that's why I asked.

I imagine one could do CTF in public, machines you work on vetted/prepared to some spec, yada yada.

If chess and Go can do it why can't CTF?

That was my question when I wrote "what am I missing here".

artninja1988 3 hours ago|||
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

"Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that"."

Grimburger 6 hours ago||
Very impressed that OP has gone from starting university in 2021 to becoming a Senior Security Engineer.

It's an incredibly exciting time in security research in my humble old man opinion.

Think the cadence of new exploits is perhaps a good measure of that rather than subjective thoughts by anyone regardless of experience.

dostick 3 hours ago||
Unable to find what “CTF” means, since it doesnt look like referring to Capture The Flag gaming
yc-kraln 3 hours ago|
It does--but a particular form of Capture The Flag where there is a computer system and the "capturing" is breaking in or exploiting a security issue in that system.
chvid 6 hours ago||
What is CTF? And why is the cyber security world filled with silly gaming references?
mort96 6 hours ago||
Capture The Flag is a cybersecurity game where the organizers set up a bunch of intentionally vulnerable computer systems with a "flag" on them, a string that's "supposed to be" secret but is accessible through exploiting the vulnerabilities. This may be a line in /etc/password, a string in memory, a field in a database, whatever. The goal of the game is to hack into the computer systems, find ("capture") the flag, then copy/paste it into the organiser's scoreboard website to prove that you solved that particular challenge.

It's pretty fun. Or at least it was, back when you had some sense that your competitors were competing on an even playing field and just beat you because they were better than you.

I wouldn't say the name is a "gaming reference", it's just a descriptive name for a game.

throwa356262 6 hours ago||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capture_the_flag_(cybersecurit...

Its a war game reference I guess?

tkel 2 hours ago||
Pretty ironic that this article was also written using LLMs. It has all the LLM-isms.
slurpyb 5 hours ago||
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vasco 6 hours ago||
My first ever was Stripe CTF in 2012 I think, I still wear the shirt I got (now super fainted) from passing some challenges. I was a student in portugal and remember receiving the shirt for it and thinking, maybe those Americans aren't any better than me and I can compete at the same level.

I never got super into security but it gave me the confidence to play in the same field and lose the stupid aura I had that somehow "rich americans" would be better than me at everything because they had better universities or because of Hollywood or something.

Sad that another cool thing is lost to AI but I guess kids will learn in other ways.

JackSlateur 4 hours ago|
No relationship with the CTF (Common Trace Format) format ..
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