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Posted by frays 9 hours ago

Frontier AI has broken the open CTF format(kabir.au)
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phoebe_builds 6 hours ago|
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simonTrace 2 hours ago||
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utopiah 8 hours ago||
Right, the same way that car racing has "broken" jogging. This is so dumb. /s

The whole point of competitions is to provide a safe environment thanks to a set of rules all participants AGREE on in order to progress together.

If new tools "break" the competition, we change the rules and that's A-OK.

CTF isn't a natural phenomenon, if tools change, rules change, simple.

swiftcoder 6 hours ago|
The only way this actually works is if you move CTF to in-person only. There's no other way to reasonably prevent the whole leaderboard being taken up by whoever spent the most on tokens.
utopiah 1 hour ago||
Sure, I don't know how to make it work. I just know that DeepBlue didn't kill competitive chess. We simply have at least 3 different rule sets, namely

- no computer assistance, which does also mean no mobile on competition, human only

- advanced chess with assistance

- computer only, no human assistance

and arguably chess itself is not doing worst since.

zzvimercm 7 hours ago||
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rqd3 7 hours ago||
tldr; adapters took my elo
mikehuntt 6 hours ago|
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