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Posted by eamag 18 hours ago

Accelerando (2005)(www.antipope.org)
261 points | 149 commentspage 2
dsr_ 13 hours ago|
Charlie has said repeatedly that this is SF-horror, not a How-To.
jodrellblank 13 hours ago|
"After a trillion dollars of investment, we have successfully built the Vile Offspring from Stross's famous 2005 SF-horror "Don't build the Vile Offspring"".
jeingham 12 hours ago||
I've read a number of the comments here about Accelerando and other books of the same ilk. I'm thinking a couple of things, a question and the feeling:

What SciFi books are describing what is now thought to be impossibilities all together in spite of the potentials of singularity?

I feel like everyday there are new, very real discoveries in science as a result of AI and otherwise that reading about that stuff is just as good as reading about any possibilities that may be described in any science fiction book.

We are living in or moving very quickly towards an era where everything around us seems quite fantastical compared to the life I lived some 50 years ago.

okonomiyaki3000 17 hours ago||
I love this book! The part about the implication of digitized minds and long distance space travel was really eye-opening. It really makes you understand that, no, aliens are not visiting earth.
XorNot 13 hours ago|
The entire thing is an amazing exploration of how the concept of time becomes a bit meaningless though with those capabilities: traveling at relativistic velocities for hundreds of years? Several of your backups live out whole lives and also a centuries old lawsuit is still in progress and a lawyer is slowly uploading on your laser propulsion source to talk about it. When you get back everyone will still be around because it's also surprisingly hard to actually die anymore.
Hizonner 16 hours ago||
I'm happy to report that my timing attacks have succeeded in accessing this simulation's substrate. Lobsters are reviewing my paper.
esafak 15 hours ago|
In http://lobste.rs/ the lobsters are us :)
yomismoaqui 16 hours ago||
Sorry to hijack the topic (slightly), but after reading all books from The Culture by Iain M. Banks I'm looking for similar Sci-fi.

Any recommendations?

veidr 15 hours ago||
Vernor Vinge has some hits and some misses, but A Deepness in the Sky (best to just take the plunge and read it without googling — it's good either way, but better if you don't even read the back of the paperback).

Then, a bit further afield but for me, at least, exercised what I liked in The Culture series, even though stylistically different: Spin by Robert Charles Wilson.

derektank 11 hours ago||
I think A Fire Upon the Deep would be a more enjoyable starting place for someone that likes the Culture series, even though A Deepness in the Sky is generally considered the better novel.
GolfPopper 14 hours ago|||
Nobody is quite like Banks.

Some of the closest would likely be:

Charles Stross' various SF, especially the space opera-adjacent stuff. (He has an large range. Merchant Princes and Laundry series are good, but not at all along the lines of Banks.)

Gregory Benford's Galactic Center Saga.

Vernor Vinge's three Zones of Though books.

David Brin's Uplift series.

Perhaps Hannu Rajaniemi's Jean le Flambeur series.

Max Gladstone's Emperess of Forever shares a similar setting, but is much lighter.

The writing of Gene Wolfe and Tamayn Muir has, I think, much in common with Banks in terms of depth and character, but even though SF they have a very different feel and focus to their works.

And, of course, if you want the original space opera, it might be worth tracking down E.E. "Doc" Smith's Lensmen books. Galactic Patrol and Grey Lensman are the heart of it and ought to be read first. Second Stage Lensman and Children of the Lens are worthy sequels that complete the story. They're pretty breezy reads and very different from Banks in everything but the setting of a galaxy filled with different species, and likely seem somewhat hackneyed now, but they're also the source of most space opera archetypes. (If you think of a space opera trope, it probably came from Lensman. Star Wars is largely a Lensman/Flash Gordon mashup.)

Ogre 9 hours ago||
The Merchant Princes series is fun, and I really enjoy the story of why he wrote it. It starts out as fantasy for basically the whole first novel and then some. But you can find some evidence from the start that it's really sci-fi, and by the end of the series it has dropped all pretense. It's sci-fi through and through.

This is all because he had an exclusive contract for sci-fi with his other publisher. But not an exclusive contract period. So he stealth wrote a second sci-fi series without actually breaking that contract until later.

I'm not sure if The Laundry Files was done for the same reason. It's possible. I haven't read those past the first novel. But I'm a big fan of everything else he's done.

flir 15 hours ago|||
Alastair Reynolds (high-concept space opera, well written), Adrian Tchaikovsky (first contact, aliens, can't write nearly as well as Banks), Neal Asher (AI-run civilisation, inventive nastiness). Nobody's exactly like Banks though.
generic92034 15 hours ago||
> Nobody's exactly like Banks though.

Indeed. He died way too early. R.I.P.

caconym_ 14 hours ago|||
Echoing others, Reynolds (House of Suns, Pushing Ice, the Revelation Space series), Stross (Accelerando, Glasshouse, and Saturn's Children/Neptune's Brood are my favorites), and Rajaniemi (the Quantum Thief trilogy) scratch roughly the same itch for me.
synack 15 hours ago|||
Tell Claude that it’s a Culture Mind. Entertaining for a little while.
mpalmer 15 hours ago||
Love the Culture books, wish I could wipe my brain and discover them again.

It's not too much like Banks' stuff, but I must recommend Glasshouse by Charles Stross. Far-future humanity, really interesting ideas re: war, identity, memory and infohazards.

Also if you've not already read Vinge's "Zones of Thought" books, absolutely get on that.

losvedir 17 hours ago||
I read this book a few years ago and it was just chock full of interesting ideas. I think I didn't really "get" it, or enjoy the story that much but I definitely was impressed by the imagination. Every once in a while I think of random things in it. IIRC, it was this book where corporations become kind of important, central entities at some point, and that resonates more and more these days.
murmansk 14 hours ago||
Accelerando is a true masterpiece. Crypto and endless speculation, AI and lobsters, space exploration - all in all just "this is our near future". TBH, I know of just handful of Sci-Fi novels as fundamental and as let's say prophetic as this one. The others to my taste in the same category is Nexus trilogy by Ramez Naam (even if a bit farfetched by now), The Diamond Age (="The Illustrated Primer" is peak AI) by Neil Stephenson and Daemon+Freedom by Daniel Suarez (=AI + crypto DAOs).
solstice 13 hours ago|
I just reread Daemon and Freedom™. Highly recommended. They definitely hit different today than when I first read them in 2010 or thereabouts
clokkz 17 hours ago||
I read this book a while ago, and when I heard about openclaw I immediately thought of the self aware lobster neural network in space.
wainstead 16 hours ago||
Read this over a decade ago and it’s been on my mind a lot lately. Very timely.

The notion of the inner solar system being converted into computronium sounds less and less far-fetched with each passing month.

ridgeguy 15 hours ago||
Perhaps this is an early indicator.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/13/utah-approve...

fellowmartian 16 hours ago||
Is it? Literally nothing even remotely similar from the book is happening in reality beyond the lobsters’ broken command of language being similar to early GPTs, but even they seem to have had a better world model than our current SOTA.
db48x 14 hours ago||
That’s because the lobsters were an AI using an LLM to communicate. All we have is the LLM.
xgbi 17 hours ago|
One of the founding books that really blew my mind and drove me on the path of software and hacking.

I was 17 in 2005 and discovered it by chance, and I’ve been binging on hard sf since then. Matrix and this were really transformative for me.

Also, for the longest of times I thought lobste.rs was a reference to this book :-)

Charles has very interesting takes on the modern world on his blog. I still read it with great passion.

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