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Posted by krupan 2 days ago

Turn your Android phone into a ham radio transceiver(www.kv4p.com)
73 points | 22 comments
Crunchified 1 hour ago|
This doesn't turn your phone into a ham transceiver at all. It turns your phone into a transceiver controller. Given that a cell phone is a transceiver, this headline is rather disappointing clickbait.
lovelearning 30 minutes ago||
I don't see it as clickbait since the realities of the Android ecosystem is a shared context.

Most people know that just about every Android phone has a restricted hardware design, not an expandable one.

So, "turn your phone into X" is bound to automatically evoke images of another device that plugs into the phone via common connectors like USB or the audio jack and an app on the phone to control that device. That's what the phrase means to most people in the context of Android.

"Turn your phone into a ham radio transceiver controller" is neither needed nor entirely accurate, because then people will assume it can control _any_ ham radio transceiver.

Crunchified 5 minutes ago|||
The article is chiefly about a radio circuit you can "build", plus some controller software that happens to run on an Android phone. Meanwhile the headline is 100% focused on describing something that your phone can be made to do (which you have admitted that it can't).

The two don't add up, and your apologetic analysis doesn't convince me otherwise. It's still clickbait. An Android cell phone has radio guts, and that headline is just gutless.

lxgr 9 minutes ago|||
"Turn your phone into a nuclear reactor (by plugging it into a wall outlet served by a nuclear power plant)"
alexwwang 1 hour ago||
Agree.

We need a compact short wave transceiver device actually.

FabCH 1 hour ago|||
Baofeng is 20 dollars? How much cheaper and compact do you need?

And I know, I know, Baofengs are notorious for going over the allowed noise limits… but still…

takipsizad 1 hour ago||
Baofeng's are not shortwave radios afaik
RobotToaster 1 hour ago||||
A compact CB transceiver would be fun.
topspin 10 minutes ago||
Fun, but short range. A quarter wave CB antenna is about 2.7 meters long. Without that, you're making more heat than radio.
NordStreamYacht 51 minutes ago|||
Yaesu FTW
landgenoot 1 hour ago||
> 1 watt transmit can go miles yet sips your phone’s battery

How far can such a device reach in a typical urban environment with the longer antenna?

lxgr 2 minutes ago||
VHF is effectively line-of-sight, and no antenna size can change that (although it does improve efficiency for both sending and receiving), so for two handheld radios, you are limited to about 10 km.

The only thing that really helps extend the range is elevating the antenna, and repeaters allow you to do that even between two mobile stations.

fodmap 12 minutes ago||
You can extend the reach using repeaters. This free app is handy for that https://hearham.com/repeaters
bdavbdav 1 hour ago||
I used to use SDR for DAB radio in the nexus 7 in the dash of my BMW E46. It didn’t work very well but was closer to being some kind of radio receiver (not trans at least)
s03nk3 1 hour ago||
Is it so difficult to have schematics and pcb exported as PDF so that people do not need to fire up KiCAD to view the stuff?
RobotToaster 2 hours ago|
1w seems a little limited? A cheap baofeng is 8w.
lormayna 2 hours ago||
Only on the paper, the real power is around 3/3.5W
Kaliboy 1 hour ago|||
Those cheap baofeng's are illegal to use where I live on most of the spectrum they can operate on. Illegal to press the talk button anyway.

So maybe the 1w is also a regulatory issue.

asdff 42 minutes ago||
How does the FCC enforce this sort of thing? Are they listening in to certain frequencies nationally with the ability to triangulate a handheld down to actually identifying someone?
fodmap 18 minutes ago|||
Most of the time they get a complaint, and they investigate.

https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/fcc-enforcement-...

martheen 23 minutes ago|||
Someone complained, they send someone to check and triangulate, verify that the operator doesn't have the license, then issue a warning or fine.
takipsizad 2 hours ago||
1w is usually okay and using 8w from a phone is probably way too much power demand