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Posted by Bibabomas 12 hours ago

Show HN: Semble – Code search for agents that uses 98% fewer tokens than grep(github.com)
Hey HN! We (Stephan and Thomas) recently open-sourced Semble. We kept running into the same problem while using Claude Code on large codebases: when the agent can't find something directly, it falls back to grep, reading full files or launching subagents. This uses a lot of tokens, and often still misses the relevant code. There are existing tools for this, but they were either too slow to index on demand, needed API keys, or had poor retrieval quality.

Semble is our solution for this. It combines static Model2Vec embeddings (using our latest static model: potion-code-16M) with BM25, fused via RRF and reranked with code-aware signals. Everything runs on CPU since there's no transformers involved. On our benchmark of ~1250 query/document pairs across 63 repos and 19 languages, it uses 98% fewer tokens than grep+read and reaches 99% of the retrieval quality of a 137M-parameter code-trained transformer, while being ~200x faster.

Main features:

- Token-efficient: 98% fewer tokens than grep+read

- Fast: ~250ms to index a typical repo on our benchmark, ~1.5ms per query on CPU (very large repos may take longer)

- Accurate: 0.854 NDCG@10, 99% of the best transformer setup we tested

- MCP server: drop-in for Claude Code, Cursor, Codex, OpenCode

- Zero config: no API keys, no GPU, no external services

Install in Claude Code with: claude mcp add semble -s user -- uvx --from "semble[mcp]" semble

Or check our README for other installation instructions, benchmarks, and methodology:

Semble: https://github.com/MinishLab/semble

Benchmarks: https://github.com/MinishLab/semble/tree/main/benchmarks

Model: https://huggingface.co/minishlab/potion-code-16M

Let us know if you have any feedback or questions!

211 points | 61 comments
freakynit 11 minutes ago|
What I have personally observed with such tools is that they make the AI's dumb, similar to how it makes coders dumb when relying more on AI tools.

These agentic AI's are already smart enough to figure out a highly optimized path to code exploration or search. But, with these tools, they just go very aggressive, partly because the search results from these tools almost in 100% of the cases do not furnish full details, but, just the pointers.

To confirm this behaviour, I did a small test run. This is in no way conclusive, but, the results do align with what I been observing:

---

Task: trace full ingestion and search paths in some okayish complex project. Harness is Pi.

1. With "codebase-memory-mcp": 85k/4.4k (input/output tokens).

2. With my own regular setup: 67k/3.2k.

3. Without any of these: 80k/3.2k.

As we see, such a tool made it worse (not by much, but, still). The outputs were same in quality and informational content.

---

Now, what my "regular setup" mentioned above is?:

Just one line in AGENTS.md and CLAUDE.md: "Start by reading PROJECT.md" .

And PROJECT.md contains just following: 2-3 line description of the project, all relevant files and their one-line description, any nuiances, and finally, ends with this line:

    ## To LLM
    Update this file if the changes you have done are worth updating here. The intent of this file is to give you a rough idea of the project, from where you can explore further, if needed.
boyter 15 minutes ago||
Interesting. I too have been working in this space, though I took a different approach. Rather than building an index, I worked on making a "smarter grep" by offering search over codebases (and any text content really) with ranking and some structural awareness of the code. Most of my time was spend dealing with performance, and as a result it runs extremely quickly.

I will have to add this as a comparison to https://github.com/boyter/cs and see what my LLMs prefer for the sort of questions I ask. It too ships with MCP, but does NOT build an index for its search. I am very curious to see how it would rank seeing as it does not do basic BM25 but a code semantic variant of it.

This seems to work better for the "how does auth work" style of queries, while cs does "authenticate --only-declarations" and then weighs results based on content of the files, IE where matches are, in code, comments and the overall complexity of the file.

Have starred and will be watching.

esperent 3 hours ago||
I did some evals with pi and GPT 5.5. I tested RTK on / headroom on / both on / both off (all with the standard pi system instructions and no AGENTS.md).

I forget the exact tests I used (a couple of the standard agent evals that people use, one python and one typescript because those are what I use).

I don't claim it was an exhaustive test, or even a good one. It's possible I could have spent a day or so tuning my AGENTS.md and the pi system prompt/tool instructions and gotten better results, because if there's one thing running evals taught me it's that subtle differences there can change the results a lot.

However, I got clearly better results with both off, enough to convince me to stop the tests immediately after 3 rounds.

The problem was that while context use did go down (sometimes), the number of turns to complete went up so the overall cost of the conversation was higher.

It's made me very aware of one thing: so many people are sharing these kind of tools, but either with zero evals (or suspiciously hard to reproduce), or in the case of this one, extensive benchmarks testing the wrong thing.

I'm sure this tool does use fewer tokens than grep, and the benchmarks prove it, but that's not what matters here. What matters is, does an agent using it get the same quality of work done more quickly and for lower cost?

zobzu 3 hours ago|
with AI the "they could so they never wondered if they should" will be a very frequent thing.
jack_pp 2 hours ago||
yeah I think I'm prone to do the same, it is so easy to create and we get too excited by it instead of first doing the research necessary which is much more boring than actually producing something.
jerezzprime 8 hours ago||
I'd be interested in seeing actual agent benchmarks (eg CC or Copilot CLI with grep removed and this tool instead).

For example, I have explored RTK and various LSP implementations and find that the models are so heavily RL'd with grep that they do not trust results in other forms and will continually retry or reread, and all token savings are lost because the model does not trust the results of the other tools.

AussieWog93 5 hours ago||
I just put something in my global CLAUDE.md (under ~/.Claude) asking it to use the LSP instead of grep and have never had this issue since.
yakbarber 5 hours ago|||
can you share that prompt?
gigatexal 5 hours ago|||
My q would have been this. Lsp solved this no?
nextaccountic 6 hours ago|||
Codex CLI is quite happy running RTK. Well with GPT 5.5 xhigh anyway

One thing that irks me is that when it doesn't support eg. a cli flag of find, it gives an error message rather than sending the full output of the command instead. Then the agent wastes tokens retrying, or worse, doesn't even try because the prompting may make them afraid to not run commands without rtk

aleksiy123 6 hours ago||
how effective is RTK for you? worth using?
philipbjorge 1 hour ago|||
I can't find the relevant issues in their repo, but I've been somewhat skeptical of their tool over-reporting token savings and there are many issues to that effect in the repo.

I'm not likely to install it again in my latest configuration, instead applying some specific tricks to things like `make test` to spit out zero output exit on unsuccessful error codes, that sort of thing. Anecdotally, I see GPT-5.5 often automatically applying context limiting flags to the bash it writes :shrug:

maille 5 hours ago|||
Wondering too
stephantul 8 hours ago|||
Yeah we're also interested in doing this, it's on the roadmap together with optimization of the prompt and descriptions so that models have an easier time using it.

Perhaps anecdotally: we do use this tool ourselves of course, and it's been working pretty well so far. Anthropic models call it and seem to trust the results.

giancarlostoro 7 hours ago||
I forced Claude to have a global memory for RTK and my own AI memory system (GuardRails) which it happily uses both, the only times it doesnt use GuardRails is if I dont mention it at all, otherwise it always uses RTK unless RTK falls apart running a tool it does not support.
andai 2 hours ago||
Nice, this sounds great. I want to mention a related issue here, which is that on small codebases, Claude spends a lot of time looking for stuff when it could have just dumped the whole codebase into the context in one go and used very little tokens.

I found a nice workaround which is that you can just dump the whole directory into context, as a startup hook. So then Claude skips the "fumble around blindly in the dark" portion of every task. (I've also seen a great project that worked on bigger repos where it'll give the model an outline with stubs, though I forget what it was called.)

stephantul 6 minutes ago||
This is true, agents just don't know a lot about the things they're looking at, e.g., the number of files, file sizes, etc.

Although for small codebases it also holds that whatever you would like to find it easy to find, so search still might help you with cost

mackenney 18 minutes ago||
Maybe aider? https://aider.chat/2023/10/22/repomap.html
aadishv 1 hour ago||
Seems like a cool idea so I decided to play with it a bit. The test I ran was in the browsercode (https://github.com/browser-use/browsercode) repo with the following prompt:

"Answer this question by only using the `semble` CLI (docs below):

> What tools does Browsercode provide to the agent other than the base OpenCode tools? Provide the exact schema for tool input and tool output and briefly summarize what they do and how they work

---

[the AGENTS.md snippet provided from https://github.com/MinishLab/semble#bash-integration]"

And the equivalent for the non-Semble test:

"Answer this question by only using the `rg` and `fd` CLIs:

> What tools does Browsercode provide to the agent other than the base OpenCode tools? Provide the exact schema for tool input and tool output and briefly summarize what they do and how they work"

In both cases, I used Pi with gpt-5.4 medium and a very minimal setup otherwise. (And yes, I did verify that either instance only used rg & fd, or only used semble.)

Without Semble, it used 10.9% of the model context and used $0.144 of API credits (or, at least, that's what Pi reported - I used this with a Codex sub so cannot be sure). With Semble, it used 9.8% of the model context and $0.172 of API credits. The resulting responses were also about the same. Very close!

I tried one more test in the OpenCode repo. The question was > Trace the path from 1) the OPENCODE_EXPERIMENTAL_EXA env var being set to to 1 to 2) the resulting effects in the system prompt or tool provided to the OpenCode agent.

And I included the same instructions/docs as above. The non-Semble version was a bit more detailed -- it went into whether the tool call path invoked Exa based on whether Exa or Parallel was enabled for the web search provider -- but w.r.t. actually answering the question, both versions were accurate. The Semble version used 14.7% context / $0.282 API cost, while the non-Semble version used 19.0% / $0.352. Clearly a win for Semble for context efficiency, but note that the non-Semble version finished about twice as fast as the Semble version.

Of course this is just me messing around. ymmv.

stephantul 4 minutes ago|
Wow awesome, thanks for sharing! This is really useful and very much like the experiments we want to be doing in the near future
AussieWog93 5 hours ago||
Better than grep obviously, but how does this compare to existing LSPs?
CharlesW 4 hours ago|
Or tools like `ck`: https://beaconbay.github.io/ck/
cormacrelf 2 hours ago||
Try running both on the CK codebase. CK takes like 15 minutes to index itself and gives hundreds of completely irrelevant doc comments as results for “run model on CPU” query. Semble indexes for like 3 seconds and prints out the actual code that runs the model on the CPU.
CharlesW 59 seconds ago||
You didn’t use `ck` directly, you instructed Claude Code to use `ck`, right?
wrxd 5 hours ago||
I also like the index feature form https://maki.sh Source code has a lot of structure, using a real parser instead of grepping and reading files can potentially save a lot of tokens
singpolyma3 7 hours ago|
Semantic code search seems like a useful tool for a human too. Not just for agents.
stephantul 8 minutes ago|
Yeah I agree. I have used semble to quickly index a large monorepo and just ask a question about it, it surfaced the right files pretty quickly. Although without an IDE, it's difficult to display them in nice way
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