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Posted by interpol_p 18 hours ago

Apple unveils new accessibility features(www.apple.com)
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dzonga 13 hours ago||
actual useful & impactful A.I features not the snake oil being sold daily.
celsoazevedo 12 hours ago||
Nice. It would be good if Apple could find the time to improve the readability of the white text on green bubbles too.

edit: it seems that asking Apple to follow their own accessibility guidelines isn't popular on HN :-(

skiing_crawling 12 hours ago||
They won't, its literally part of their sales funnel. They've specifically engineered a bad experience for anyone outside the ecosystem by making it all of their friend's problem too. Its very important for their stock price that text messages sent by non apple products are just slightly more difficult to read.
kps 12 hours ago||
That wouldn't let them say “AI”.
OhMeadhbh 10 hours ago||
I miss Apple during it's hey-day. There was a time when Apple was the sine qua non for #a11y and #hci. Then Steve came back.
diogenescynic 5 hours ago||
Cool, but why is Apple making the new iPhone 17e chips in Israel when Israel just coordinated a mass terrorist attack using pagers? I personally don't want my iPhone being used as a bomb if I say something to criticize Israel. Israel is the last place I want to have anything to do with my phone.
Almondsetat 17 hours ago||
I have difficulty trusting this. There are plenty of videos online of LLMs making up stuff like "I just ate a hot dog, is there mustard around my mouth?" "No, everything is clean" while there is a big yellow stain om the guy's face
WarmWash 16 hours ago||
The problem is using a language model to assess images.

Probably 80% of "LLM's are below expectation" complaints (from the general population) involves some form of image analyses.

Image tokenization is hard because unlike language tokenization, where every token is extremely dense with meaning, image tokens tends to be meaningless or irrelevant but are processed all the same.

Give an SOTA LLM a picture of toothpicks and ask it to move one to make a square, and it will probably struggle and fumble it. But give a mid-size LLM from 2 years ago the same problem in verbal form, and it will nail it almost every time.

That takeaway is, do everything you can to avoid having the LLM need to rely on images for the answer.

gruez 15 hours ago||
I thought all the recent models are "multimodal"? Is the image part just sticking an image recognizer in front of the text model?
RobMurray 13 hours ago|||
Most of those videos are chatGPT voice mode, which still used gpt 4o last time I checked. it is far from SOTA.
postalrat 17 hours ago||
Like coding, creating images or text, maybe the alternative of doing it yourself is too easy or enjoyable for you. Don't expect that will be true for everyone.
Almondsetat 15 hours ago||
Did you reply to the wrong person? What are you even trying to say here?
postalrat 3 hours ago||
You say you don't trust it but whats your alternative assuming you lost your vision?
seeeeebt 17 hours ago||
Surely a blind person relies a lot on audio input?
isityettime 16 hours ago||
Maybe on a smartphone, but usually not on a computer. Keyboards are pretty good.

The other thing is that if you're around others, voice input means you have no privacy. Even if you're not doing anything particularly private, it's a bit awkward and potentially embarrassing. If you use touch input in conjunction with a screen reader, you can be more like a "normal" user in that what you're doing is just between you and your phone.

asadotzler 11 hours ago||
Audio input is far more commonly used by people with mobility difficulties. Imagine that your hands shake a lot or that you don't have limbs. That makes using a keyboard and mouse difficult or impossible and voice input can help. Blind users generally use keyboards for input, the typical ones you find on a PC but also sometimes the keys on their Braille display.
cybercatgurrl 5 hours ago||
this is exactly how you fight people’s notion that AI is bad. you change their lives with it. make it something indispensable for a subset of users so that being anti-AI is indefensible. for instance, “how dare you threaten people’s ability to navigate the world independently”
devinprater 17 hours ago|
There's my dopamine hit for the year.
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