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Posted by spectraldrift 13 hours ago

Gemini 3.5 Flash(blog.google)
https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/models/gemini-3.5-flas...
710 points | 507 commentspage 5
mchusma 6 hours ago|
I have thought about this and I think overall, this was a disappointing release from Google. I'm not sure the sentiment, but this feels like a miss.

What they did do in the keynote was spend a lot of time talking about their distribution advantage, and how they can own the consumer in search. But not a lot that will benefit partners or developers.

Basically, they released something broadly competitive with Sonnet 4.6, a new Omni model that seems interesting but unclear yet. They have completely ceded the frontier to OpenAI / Anthropic, and are saying "look for pro next month".

The best release since nano banana pro from Google has been Gemma.

ElenaDaibunny 3 hours ago||
but latency in real GUI workflows with 50+ steps is still the elephant in the room for cloud-based agents
MASNeo 12 hours ago||
Well, available for Gemini means these days that half the time they are “Receiving a lot of requests right now.” and so sorry they couldn’t complete the task. Luckily the model supports long time horizons because that’s what’s needed. /me likes Gemini a lot just wishing Google would add the compute!
esafak 8 hours ago|
Are you on a paid plan?
ErystelaThevale 7 hours ago||
Gemini has been too agreeable to be useful for actual debate. Curious if 3.5 changes that, or just the benchmarks
x3cca 11 hours ago||
I'm excited for the conversation to switch from intelligence to tps instead. I care much less about what hard thought experiments models can one shot and much more how responsive my plain text interface for doing things is.
mackross 11 hours ago||
The antigravity teamwork-preview doesn't work for me -- upgraded to ultra, installed antigravity 2, ran teamwork-preview, keeps failing: "You have exhausted your capacity on this model. Your quota will reset after 0s."
noelsusman 12 hours ago||
The Artificial Analysis benchmark results are pretty underwhelming. Roughly the same "intelligence" as MiMo-V2.5-Pro for over 3x the cost. We'll have to see how that translates to actual usage but it's not a great sign.
hydra-f 12 hours ago|
That really depends on whether they have similar parameter counts, doesn't it? Unless you know that, the comparison is just strange
noelsusman 3 hours ago|||
I don't know why a user should care at all about parameter counts. All that matters is performance and cost.
halJordan 11 hours ago|||
Bad look to tell people they're not allowed to compare things just because we need to respect Google's privacy
hydra-f 11 hours ago||
I didn't take the price into consideration when writing that. I meant to point out that even if they have similar scores, the Flash model might be smaller than MiMo or Kimi, which would by itself be a win

That said, haste makes waste as the price point completely invalidates that

amelius 10 hours ago||
Gemini, please block all ads in my search engine.
swe_dima 13 hours ago|
Flash family but costs like a Pro. $9 vs $12 for output.
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