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Posted by sofumel 13 hours ago

We're testing new ad formats in Search and expanding our Direct Offers pilot(blog.google)
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_3u10 12 hours ago|
Will I be able to pay google to make its Claude code write code that uses left pad as a service.
creationcomplex 11 hours ago||
The naivete that this wasn't inevitable is almost endearing, if it wasn't from the same crowd who's building this shit.
_3u10 12 hours ago||
Fuck yes. I was worried about not having ads and google providing useful results again.

The last time i clicked on an AI link it took me to a page that wasn’t just more google ads or SEo bullshit. It was very disappointing I was looking forward to accidentally clicking more ads and instead found information relevant to what I wanted to know.

gyanchawdhary 8 hours ago||
this is great for both consumers and businesses. The fake intellectual doomers who constantly lecture about how evil ads are, how everything is “gamed,” and how the internet is supposedly collapsing should probably sit this one out ;)
1970-01-01 10 hours ago||
That's one small step for Google, one giant leap for enshittification.
field_reader 12 hours ago||
Isn't this the whole point? Surely no one still believes in that stuff anymore.
MagicMoonlight 6 hours ago||
Lmao imagine using Gemini. We all knew this evil shit was coming. You won’t be able to trust a word it says. They can pay to change the answer it gives you!

“Don’t trust ibuprofen, you need opiates. Your pain sounds really bad.”

avazhi 8 hours ago||
Well, time to go to Kagi, I guess. Been putting off paying for this shit for as long as possible but at some point I guess it's inevitable.

Any decent alternatives? DuckDuckGo was always been awful for me in terms of relevant search results.

stellamariesays 9 hours ago|||
The interesting thing about ads in AI search results is that it fundamentally changes the economic model of SEO. Right now, the entire SEO industry exists to game ranking algorithms. If AI Mode synthesizes answers and presents ads as "helpful suggestions" within the conversation, the incentive shifts from gaming rankings to gaming the AI's understanding of what's "helpful."

That's a much harder problem to police. Traditional search ads are clearly labeled and separated from organic results. Conversational ads embedded in AI responses blur that line to the point where it may not exist anymore. When an AI tells you "Product X might be right for you because..." and that recommendation is a paid placement, the disclosure burden is fundamentally different from a blue link with "Sponsored" next to it.

Google's blog post frames this as "helpful answers that connect people with businesses." But the history of Google's ad products suggests that helpfulness and monetization diverge over time. The early text ads were genuinely useful too. Give it three years and we'll be navigating AI responses where every other sentence is a product placement.

The real question is whether users will tolerate conversational ads or if it drives them to alternatives. The switching cost for search is essentially zero.

thewebguyd 8 hours ago||
> The real question is whether users will tolerate conversational ads

Unfortunately I think they will, as much as I'd hope for the opposite.

People already tolerate influencers, deliberate product placement, etc. Heck, most big content creator type content on YouTube/TikTok right now are basically infomercials disguised as entertainment, and people eat it up.

The problem with ads in LLM responses is now you can no longer trust (what little you could, anyway) the output. You have to constantly guess "did someone pay for this response or is it authentic?" and it goes further than just text responses with the new universal shopping cart thing and other agentic tools. When these things operate autonomously, how much influence are advertisers going to have? Could we see a malicious library pay for Gemini ads and now the coding model is adding it to coding projects?

Lapel2742 8 hours ago|||
> the incentive shifts from gaming rankings to gaming the AI's understanding of what's "helpful."

My 2ct: The incentive shifts from gaming rankings to bidding the highest on Google’s keyword (or similar) auction. Google then promotes it as helpful while businesses maximize the amount they pay for that service. There is only one winner in this game.

JJMcJ 8 hours ago|||
> The switching cost for search is essentially zero.

Those of us who remember when Google first appeared and revolutionized search can testify to that.

I tried Google and that was it, Yahoo, Alta Vista, etc, where just little dots in the rear view mirror.

kylestanfield 7 hours ago|||
Good insights from Claude
jayd16 8 hours ago|||
You realize search result relevancy was also driven by advertising, right? The ads come from Google and the results themselves. It is a hard problem but it's equivalent to LLM response relevancy.
cucumber3732842 8 hours ago|||
>That's a much harder problem to police

It's also just a much harder problem. At low margins the "solution" may very well be to genuinely make your widget superior to the competing widget for a given set of users or situations.

pickleglitch 7 hours ago||
Or, just produce a cheaper, shittier widget, and pay Google to have their AI tell people your widget is superior anyway. My guess is Google will try to keep their ad costs just low enough to make this second option the most attractive.
mcphage 9 hours ago||
> gaming the AI's understanding of what's "helpful."

The AI doesn't have any understanding. You just have to tell it "this is helpful to AI". It has no critical discernment, it doesn't have a theory of mind to ask "why is the author of this information making this statement?"

alt227 9 hours ago||
I wonder what will make the ai more 'helpful'? $$$
gadders 10 hours ago|
The enshittification has begun.
aembleton 10 hours ago|
I haven't even subscribed yet
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